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This is a strange narrative to me. Google and other companies have done crappy things without people calling for a break up of the company. It’s possible you ar

This is a strange narrative to me. Google and other companies have done crappy things without people calling for a break up of the company. It’s possible you are in your reality distortion field. An anti-Apple one. I don’t know anything about this particular case but there is a gray area when it comes to what an owner of a platform should/shouldn’t be allowed to do. I hope the EU cracks down hard on both Apple and Google. Both of these platforms have become essential to modern life in many ways and as such a case can be made for strict government oversight of them.

anankaie 2y ago
Nobody seems to be suggesting it is any better when Google does it; but on Android (if you ignore the efforts that Google has gone to to make the experience be limited) one can at least avoid the AppStore altogether, while still installing and running various things on device.
resource_waste 2y ago
I think Apple rightly gets the most criticism since their marketing is among mind-control levels and they are fine with doing unethical things (Lying in ads, using fake customers to pretend to have popularity, astroturfing/upvote farms to control narratives, making people status insecure) Once you realize how dirty Apple's marketing is, its quite off-putting. I have a similar aversion to Samsung, Nintendo, Disney. Maybe Google does mind control, but I didn't catch them. Apple, Samsung, Nintendo, Disney, these companies have no qualms making you feel pain to get a sale.
- skhunted 2y ago
  This is news to me regarding the level of shittiness of Apple's marketing. Do you have any sources? If not that is OK. I don't think it's outside the realm of feasibility that this is so. It's not an extraordinary claim. Apple executives have the aura of "good guys" but that is merely a public facing facade.
JohnMakin 2y ago
> This is a strange narrative to me. Google and other companies have done crappy things without people calling for a break up of the company. Just a minor nitpick/correction here but there are multiple ongoing anti-trust suits that Google is getting killed on that very likely will lead to the breakup of some of its company's products, so that may be where the comment you are replying to is coming from.
- skhunted 2y ago
  I see. Thank you for the clarification.
- poorno 2y ago
  It’s still a lame review of social media commentary and not a novel take A cherry picked measure of some rando who thinks Apple is taking money off the table that would be ours if not for Apple; free the market from this Kraken! More banal free market retail capitalism demands from the IT crowd who would be Tim Cook themselves. When someone here defines novel mathematical axioms, humanity will have reason to be impressed. Iterating inside the same old knowledge bubble and skill set is uninspiring; the demand to create an economic brand and build a flock of sycophants is sad old roleplay

anankaie 2y ago

Nobody seems to be suggesting it is any better when Google does it; but on Android (if you ignore the efforts that Google has gone to to make the experience be limited) one can at least avoid the AppStore altogether, while still installing and running various things on device.

resource_waste 2y ago

I think Apple rightly gets the most criticism since their marketing is among mind-control levels and they are fine with doing unethical things (Lying in ads, using fake customers to pretend to have popularity, astroturfing/upvote farms to control narratives, making people status insecure) Once you realize how dirty Apple's marketing is, its quite off-putting. I have a similar aversion to Samsung, Nintendo, Disney. Maybe Google does mind control, but I didn't catch them. Apple, Samsung, Nintendo, Disney, these companies have no qualms making you feel pain to get a sale.

skhunted 2y ago
This is news to me regarding the level of shittiness of Apple's marketing. Do you have any sources? If not that is OK. I don't think it's outside the realm of feasibility that this is so. It's not an extraordinary claim. Apple executives have the aura of "good guys" but that is merely a public facing facade.

JohnMakin 2y ago

> This is a strange narrative to me. Google and other companies have done crappy things without people calling for a break up of the company. Just a minor nitpick/correction here but there are multiple ongoing anti-trust suits that Google is getting killed on that very likely will lead to the breakup of some of its company's products, so that may be where the comment you are replying to is coming from.

skhunted 2y ago
I see. Thank you for the clarification.
poorno 2y ago
It’s still a lame review of social media commentary and not a novel take A cherry picked measure of some rando who thinks Apple is taking money off the table that would be ours if not for Apple; free the market from this Kraken! More banal free market retail capitalism demands from the IT crowd who would be Tim Cook themselves. When someone here defines novel mathematical axioms, humanity will have reason to be impressed. Iterating inside the same old knowledge bubble and skill set is uninspiring; the demand to create an economic brand and build a flock of sycophants is sad old roleplay