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How many do you have to have before you can start using the Force?

by gorkish 2y ago

tomrod 2y ago
A more direct reference, though maybe obscure these days, is _Parasite_ _Eve_
ImHereToVote 2y ago
"The midichlorian is the forcehouse of the cell."
CoastalCoder 2y ago
"Whatever the stupid, lazy writers at Disney needed it to be this week." - The Critical Drinker* * I imagine
- rpmisms 2y ago
  That's probably what he would say. The actual minimum to be able to use the force is a 7000 midichlorian count.
  - politician 2y ago
    I thought it was over 9000.
    - rpmisms 2y ago
      Wrong franchise
- adamc 2y ago
  Totally a tangent, but he's right about that. It was a flaw in Harry Potter as well. There was no logical system to how magic worked; spells did whatever plot requirements said they did. And it detracts from the sense of realism in a world when the magic just does whatever is needed at the moment.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    But. It's. Magic. Magic can do anything. That's why it's magic. How does it work? Magic. It's a perfectly complete circle in logic.
    - Aerroon 2y ago
      Well, magic still needs to follow some kind of rules for it to be usable. Otherwise "magic" would just be something random (or maybe chaotic - we just haven't figured out the rules well enough).
    - mrkstu 2y ago
      Or, you can do the Brandon Sanderson thing, and have a comprehensive system that has limits and a consistent expression of magical power.
      - dylan604 2y ago
        but then it's no longer magic. it now becomes some sort of metaphysical science. magic is magic. once you understand it, it is no longer magic.
    - jajko 2y ago
      Sounds like most religions. And most modern folks having issues with religions they were brought up in don't have this as their main issue with it. One addresses child's imagination which just wants to be wowed, the other our eternal fear of unknown and death.
    - 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
      The very much NSFW web comic Oglaf had a strip about this. In this rare instance, the comic is SFW, but still be wary. https://www.oglaf.com/claret/ https://www.oglaf.com/claret/
    - adamc 2y ago
      Compare to, say, "A Wizard of Earthsea", where magic is explained in a different way that points out that while a wizard could transmute one substance into another, no wizard would, because of the far-reaching ramifications. The system was not fully elucidated by any means, but the subtlety of it was suggested by such things as Ged deducing that the doorkeeper was one of the seven masters of Roke.
highwaylights 2y ago
Less than you’d think. Not even master Yoda has a mitochondria count that high!

How many do you have to have before you can start using the Force?

tomrod 2y ago

A more direct reference, though maybe obscure these days, is _Parasite_ _Eve_

ImHereToVote 2y ago

"The midichlorian is the forcehouse of the cell."

CoastalCoder 2y ago

"Whatever the stupid, lazy writers at Disney needed it to be this week." - The Critical Drinker* * I imagine

rpmisms 2y ago
That's probably what he would say. The actual minimum to be able to use the force is a 7000 midichlorian count.
- politician 2y ago
  I thought it was over 9000.
  - rpmisms 2y ago
    Wrong franchise
adamc 2y ago
Totally a tangent, but he's right about that. It was a flaw in Harry Potter as well. There was no logical system to how magic worked; spells did whatever plot requirements said they did. And it detracts from the sense of realism in a world when the magic just does whatever is needed at the moment.
- dylan604 2y ago
  But. It's. Magic. Magic can do anything. That's why it's magic. How does it work? Magic. It's a perfectly complete circle in logic.
  - Aerroon 2y ago
    Well, magic still needs to follow some kind of rules for it to be usable. Otherwise "magic" would just be something random (or maybe chaotic - we just haven't figured out the rules well enough).
  - mrkstu 2y ago
    Or, you can do the Brandon Sanderson thing, and have a comprehensive system that has limits and a consistent expression of magical power.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      but then it's no longer magic. it now becomes some sort of metaphysical science. magic is magic. once you understand it, it is no longer magic.
  - jajko 2y ago
    Sounds like most religions. And most modern folks having issues with religions they were brought up in don't have this as their main issue with it. One addresses child's imagination which just wants to be wowed, the other our eternal fear of unknown and death.
  - 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
    The very much NSFW web comic Oglaf had a strip about this. In this rare instance, the comic is SFW, but still be wary. https://www.oglaf.com/claret/ https://www.oglaf.com/claret/
  - adamc 2y ago
    Compare to, say, "A Wizard of Earthsea", where magic is explained in a different way that points out that while a wizard could transmute one substance into another, no wizard would, because of the far-reaching ramifications. The system was not fully elucidated by any means, but the subtlety of it was suggested by such things as Ged deducing that the doorkeeper was one of the seven masters of Roke.

highwaylights 2y ago

Less than you’d think. Not even master Yoda has a mitochondria count that high!