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Have you been to library recently? I have. A huge portion of the books are wildly inappropriate for kids, and they’re in the kids section. Books are not as you

Have you been to library recently? I have. A huge portion of the books are wildly inappropriate for kids, and they’re in the kids section. Books are not as you remember from your childhood. There’s a glut of material telling very young kids that they’re the wrong gender or gay. No 7 year old is anything other than what their parents tell them. If they had their way, they would be fairy dinosaurs.

n4r9 2y ago
> material telling very young kids that they’re the wrong gender or gay Please could you give an example of this?
- geraldwhen 2y ago
  https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59647211-kisses-for-jet https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59647211-kisses-for-jet This was featured at my local regional library in the area for kids 5-10. Look through the “readers also enjoyed” and I’ve seen books either like that or those books exactly in kids sections. My closest library is the same, possibly worse since the selection is smaller but they seem to have every gender bent book ever released.
  - n4r9 2y ago
    But... that's not telling kids they're the wrong gender any more than the film Billy Elliot is telling boys that they're playing the wrong sport. It's just relating a child's experience. It also looks very much like it's targeted at teens and young adults. Amazon lists the reading age as "16-17 years" [0]. If it's in the 5-10yo section, I would say that's the library's mistake rather than a push from the trans community. [0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kisses-Jet-Coming-Gender-Story/dp/1913123030 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kisses-Jet-Coming-Gender-Story/dp/1...
    - geraldwhen 2y ago
      Many of the local librarians are trans. Telling a child they may be something they’re not is an incredibly confusing message. My kids often say they’re animals. They’re not. They’re kids, so they play pretend. I personally know parents telling their kids that they are the wrong gender. The kids are 3-6. It’s child abuse.
      - n4r9 2y ago
        > Many of the local librarians are trans. Not sure what you mean by this... are you accusing them of deliberately under-aging trans related books? > Telling a child they may be something they’re not This is already a weaker statement than "telling kids they're the wrong gender". And I don't think that the linked book even goes that far. "Some kids feel this way" is very different to "you feel this way" and 16-17 year olds are normally smart enough to tell the difference. > I personally know parents telling their kids that they are the wrong gender. That sounds awful. Although to be frank I wonder if you're also making this sound worse than is actually the case. Either way I'm not sure it's relevant.
rightbyte 2y ago
I haven't noticed with n=2. I guess that can vary alot. I have small children and have been to the local library and it hadn't changed much. Nothing edgy but a strange book about different kind of feces I kinda found distasteful. Many books make you wonder what the authors were high on while painting. But that is an old question. There are books with 'two mums' children. But I guess you are describing something else, like some sort of over the top push? There has to be some consensus among the school, school library and parent body, about what in general should be in the library. If the state think it needs to take action there is a deeper problem and they are just virtue signaling.

n4r9 2y ago

> material telling very young kids that they’re the wrong gender or gay Please could you give an example of this?

geraldwhen 2y ago
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59647211-kisses-for-jet https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59647211-kisses-for-jet This was featured at my local regional library in the area for kids 5-10. Look through the “readers also enjoyed” and I’ve seen books either like that or those books exactly in kids sections. My closest library is the same, possibly worse since the selection is smaller but they seem to have every gender bent book ever released.
- n4r9 2y ago
  But... that's not telling kids they're the wrong gender any more than the film Billy Elliot is telling boys that they're playing the wrong sport. It's just relating a child's experience. It also looks very much like it's targeted at teens and young adults. Amazon lists the reading age as "16-17 years" [0]. If it's in the 5-10yo section, I would say that's the library's mistake rather than a push from the trans community. [0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kisses-Jet-Coming-Gender-Story/dp/1913123030 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kisses-Jet-Coming-Gender-Story/dp/1...
  - geraldwhen 2y ago
    Many of the local librarians are trans. Telling a child they may be something they’re not is an incredibly confusing message. My kids often say they’re animals. They’re not. They’re kids, so they play pretend. I personally know parents telling their kids that they are the wrong gender. The kids are 3-6. It’s child abuse.
    - n4r9 2y ago
      > Many of the local librarians are trans. Not sure what you mean by this... are you accusing them of deliberately under-aging trans related books? > Telling a child they may be something they’re not This is already a weaker statement than "telling kids they're the wrong gender". And I don't think that the linked book even goes that far. "Some kids feel this way" is very different to "you feel this way" and 16-17 year olds are normally smart enough to tell the difference. > I personally know parents telling their kids that they are the wrong gender. That sounds awful. Although to be frank I wonder if you're also making this sound worse than is actually the case. Either way I'm not sure it's relevant.

rightbyte 2y ago

I haven't noticed with n=2. I guess that can vary alot. I have small children and have been to the local library and it hadn't changed much. Nothing edgy but a strange book about different kind of feces I kinda found distasteful. Many books make you wonder what the authors were high on while painting. But that is an old question. There are books with 'two mums' children. But I guess you are describing something else, like some sort of over the top push? There has to be some consensus among the school, school library and parent body, about what in general should be in the library. If the state think it needs to take action there is a deeper problem and they are just virtue signaling.