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Thanks for offering us a discount. Can I ask why your cabinet and the Mission facility mentioned in the parent comment have just a single 10Gbps fiber connectio

Thanks for offering us a discount. Can I ask why your cabinet and the Mission facility mentioned in the parent comment have just a single 10Gbps fiber connection shared between colo servers. I can get a 5Gbps at home and probably 10 if I asked nicely, I thought in SF it would be straight forward to get multiples of that.

piou 2y ago
In case there's some confusion - I'm not with MonkeyBrains. I hope my comment didn't read like I was. (And just FYI, I know people who host with MonkeyBrains, and they have no complaints.) I'm just (self-interestedly) providing an alternative across the Bay. I can't speak for them, but my service is on a 10Gbps line because that covers the needs of my clients at the moment. With a network provider at a data center, you'll typically have a good Service Level Agreement, and throughput will actually match what you're paying for. Looking at the home fiber offering from one of the big players just now, they tell you up front, "Actual speeds may vary."
- teruakohatu 2y ago
  Thanks for the answer.
michaelt 2y ago
Maybe my information is out-of-date but traditionally home internet connections were heavily over-subscribed - so that "10 Gbps" ISP would transfer at that speed for short bursts, but their business model relies on you averaging <100 Mbps over the course of a week. That's still enough for you to watch 24 screen-hours of 4K video per day - but the reason residential bandwidth was 99% cheaper than commercial bandwidth was that if you routinely used more than 1% they'd cut you off, throttle you, or apply traffic shaping.
- teruakohatu 2y ago
  I should have clarified I am a New Zealander. We get multi-gig connections to home that are not over-subscribed, but I would be very surprised if we could saturate that over the trans-Pacific cables.
- Nextgrid 2y ago
  > if you routinely used more than 1% they'd cut you off, throttle you, or apply traffic shaping. This is true, but how many projects will routinely use enough bandwidth to matter? Unless you're streaming media, very little. Keep in mind that cloud backups, P2P/torrenting, etc also uses upstream bandwidth substantially, and ISPs have come to terms with it.
  - michaelt 2y ago
    For home use? You're probably right. teruakohatu asked why a colocation facility would have a mere 10Gbps link when a 5Gbps residential links are so affordable. If you tried to run a colocation facility on a residential link, it would spend most of the time severely throttled.

piou 2y ago

In case there's some confusion - I'm not with MonkeyBrains. I hope my comment didn't read like I was. (And just FYI, I know people who host with MonkeyBrains, and they have no complaints.) I'm just (self-interestedly) providing an alternative across the Bay. I can't speak for them, but my service is on a 10Gbps line because that covers the needs of my clients at the moment. With a network provider at a data center, you'll typically have a good Service Level Agreement, and throughput will actually match what you're paying for. Looking at the home fiber offering from one of the big players just now, they tell you up front, "Actual speeds may vary."

teruakohatu 2y ago
Thanks for the answer.

michaelt 2y ago

Maybe my information is out-of-date but traditionally home internet connections were heavily over-subscribed - so that "10 Gbps" ISP would transfer at that speed for short bursts, but their business model relies on you averaging <100 Mbps over the course of a week. That's still enough for you to watch 24 screen-hours of 4K video per day - but the reason residential bandwidth was 99% cheaper than commercial bandwidth was that if you routinely used more than 1% they'd cut you off, throttle you, or apply traffic shaping.

teruakohatu 2y ago
I should have clarified I am a New Zealander. We get multi-gig connections to home that are not over-subscribed, but I would be very surprised if we could saturate that over the trans-Pacific cables.
Nextgrid 2y ago
> if you routinely used more than 1% they'd cut you off, throttle you, or apply traffic shaping. This is true, but how many projects will routinely use enough bandwidth to matter? Unless you're streaming media, very little. Keep in mind that cloud backups, P2P/torrenting, etc also uses upstream bandwidth substantially, and ISPs have come to terms with it.
- michaelt 2y ago
  For home use? You're probably right. teruakohatu asked why a colocation facility would have a mere 10Gbps link when a 5Gbps residential links are so affordable. If you tried to run a colocation facility on a residential link, it would spend most of the time severely throttled.