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Pakistan is a country that launch satellites to the space and spend solid money on building atomic bombs. They are perfectly capable to develop new antibiotics

Pakistan is a country that launch satellites to the space and spend solid money on building atomic bombs. They are perfectly capable to develop new antibiotics to fix their problem. They may also want to support and teach more people doing microbiology research on the country. That will contribute to the well-being of every children in the world, providing also the state with a lot of political leveraging and allies. The Japanese company that developed the antibiotic currently used on Pakistan will never have the same resources as the state of Pakistan.

jiggawatts 2y ago
They do manufacture antibiotics. That’s in some sense the source of the problem: they don’t regulate them enough resulting in excessive usage. This breeds resistant strains.
- pvaldes 2y ago
  Manufacture and develop are different words. Same as with clone vs create. We all know since decades that the antibiotics are failing. We all know that the misuse of the extant antibiotics cause this damage. We can't just at this state to pretend that weren't warned about that. There are many points here that could improve the problem and don't depend on anything except the will of Pakistan government to do it. A lot of low hanging fruit here. 1. How much could take for the government to regulate better the use of antibiotics? A week? Four hours and a pen? 2. What about building a scientific team to develop new antibiotics? 3. Could be the unreliable water system made more reliable? Maybe just adding a filter made with sand and cheap industrial materials would help. Dunno. 4. What about a campaign to teach your citizens about the correct use of antibiotics?
adastra22 2y ago
Pakistan doesn’t have orbital launch capability.
- pvaldes 2y ago
  > Pakistan doesn’t have orbital launch capability. SUPARCO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPARCO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPARCO PAKSAT-1R: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paksat-1R https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paksat-1R
  - createaccount99 2y ago
    SUPARCO is Pakistan's space agency, but it lacks independent orbital launch capability. PAKSAT-1R, a communication satellite, was launched by China using a Long March 3B rocket in 2011.
    - pvaldes 2y ago
      Well... True, but is a little like saying that USA does not have car makers because China is who really make the cars. Substitute launch by operate if you prefer. Is just an example If Pakistan paid somebody to built them and launch Satellites, reached a technological level enough to operate their own satellites. This is what I'm saying. Or at a level enough to earn a Nobel prize in Physics. Do you know who doesn't have a Nobel prize in Physics? My country. The branch of science that you support will fix the problems that you have in those fields. The problem is that Religious fanatics loathe the truths from Biology, while Physic or Math, either are too abstract to be seen as a menace, or simply enjoyed a protected first-priority status. If your people is dying from a lack of antibiotics because religious hawks block the development of Biology, well... you have what you allowed. Do something about this. Or learn to live with the outcome but don't blame the evil west for not coming to fix your problem while saving your face. We have problems also. Antibiotics research needs support at a government level; nobody wants to do it with their pocket money. Their best chance is to fund a team of people to research Pakistani biodiversity and find organisms that will provide solutions. They will need to put this people on a protected A-priority level status, where they can do their job freely without being harassed or hunted by it.
      - adastra22 2y ago
        US does have car makers though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_plants_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_pl... Pakistan doesn't make any of the equipment to send satellites into space. They just make the satellite, and buy a ride from the Chinese. Nothing wrong with that, btw.
rramadass 2y ago
Pakistan does not have the Economy, Educated workforce nor the Money to do any kind of research. They are surviving on loans from IMF/World Bank and are basically a basket case. Also see my other comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41635777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41635777

jiggawatts 2y ago

They do manufacture antibiotics. That’s in some sense the source of the problem: they don’t regulate them enough resulting in excessive usage. This breeds resistant strains.

pvaldes 2y ago
Manufacture and develop are different words. Same as with clone vs create. We all know since decades that the antibiotics are failing. We all know that the misuse of the extant antibiotics cause this damage. We can't just at this state to pretend that weren't warned about that. There are many points here that could improve the problem and don't depend on anything except the will of Pakistan government to do it. A lot of low hanging fruit here. 1. How much could take for the government to regulate better the use of antibiotics? A week? Four hours and a pen? 2. What about building a scientific team to develop new antibiotics? 3. Could be the unreliable water system made more reliable? Maybe just adding a filter made with sand and cheap industrial materials would help. Dunno. 4. What about a campaign to teach your citizens about the correct use of antibiotics?

adastra22 2y ago

Pakistan doesn’t have orbital launch capability.

pvaldes 2y ago
> Pakistan doesn’t have orbital launch capability. SUPARCO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPARCO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPARCO PAKSAT-1R: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paksat-1R https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paksat-1R
- createaccount99 2y ago
  SUPARCO is Pakistan's space agency, but it lacks independent orbital launch capability. PAKSAT-1R, a communication satellite, was launched by China using a Long March 3B rocket in 2011.
  - pvaldes 2y ago
    Well... True, but is a little like saying that USA does not have car makers because China is who really make the cars. Substitute launch by operate if you prefer. Is just an example If Pakistan paid somebody to built them and launch Satellites, reached a technological level enough to operate their own satellites. This is what I'm saying. Or at a level enough to earn a Nobel prize in Physics. Do you know who doesn't have a Nobel prize in Physics? My country. The branch of science that you support will fix the problems that you have in those fields. The problem is that Religious fanatics loathe the truths from Biology, while Physic or Math, either are too abstract to be seen as a menace, or simply enjoyed a protected first-priority status. If your people is dying from a lack of antibiotics because religious hawks block the development of Biology, well... you have what you allowed. Do something about this. Or learn to live with the outcome but don't blame the evil west for not coming to fix your problem while saving your face. We have problems also. Antibiotics research needs support at a government level; nobody wants to do it with their pocket money. Their best chance is to fund a team of people to research Pakistani biodiversity and find organisms that will provide solutions. They will need to put this people on a protected A-priority level status, where they can do their job freely without being harassed or hunted by it.
    - adastra22 2y ago
      US does have car makers though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_plants_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_pl... Pakistan doesn't make any of the equipment to send satellites into space. They just make the satellite, and buy a ride from the Chinese. Nothing wrong with that, btw.

rramadass 2y ago

Pakistan does not have the Economy, Educated workforce nor the Money to do any kind of research. They are surviving on loans from IMF/World Bank and are basically a basket case. Also see my other comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41635777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41635777