Owning either of these makes is a subscription anyway. A guy in my building works for a Land Rover dealer and he says it's embarrassing. They're supposed to

Owning either of these makes is a subscription anyway. A guy in my building works for a Land Rover dealer and he says it's embarrassing. They're supposed to take you all over the earth but you'd never take them because they're always broken down. Buy a Ford or Toyota if you want to do any actual overlanding.