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I assume it still blocks actions when someone tries to interact with the user, so the fact that they're blocked isn't a secret. It seems like more of a convenie

I assume it still blocks actions when someone tries to interact with the user, so the fact that they're blocked isn't a secret. It seems like more of a convenience feature for the person who got blocked (since they would otherwise need to log out), which is an odd direction to push a product.

pbreit 2y ago
Unless they allow the reply but hide it from others (ie, shadowban).
ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
> I assume it still blocks actions when someone tries to interact with the user That would be weird, the block is there so you don't see their posts & replies, but your block shouldn't affect what they can do. Maybe other people want to see their replies, why should a third party block them from this? It would be like if IRC's /ignore function prevented someone from sending messages containing your name – weird. You should be able to block yourself off from anybody you wish, but not to control their public speech.
adastra22 2y ago
Logging out doesn’t work anymore. They would need to make an alt account.
- danudey 2y ago
  So since abusers, stalkers, and harassers can't just log out to view the blocker's posts, X is making it so that they can view those posts without logging out or changing to an alt account. That makes it a lot more convenient for people who were already blocked for bad behavior to get mad at what someone posted. Sounds like they're catering to the kinds of people who would normally have gotten around blocks by using private browsing.
- swyx 2y ago
  you guys are acting like the incognito window doesnt exist? literally one click away
  - CydeWeys 2y ago
    It literally doesn't work. You need to be logged into Twitter to see basically anything. Twitter logged out experience is basically just a login page.
    - seattle_spring 2y ago
      Couldn't you just login with a different account?
      - adastra22 2y ago
        Sure. But let's look at where we are now. If you're blocked from viewing an account, you need to switch to a different account (possibly in an incognito window rather than adding the account?) and explicitly load the tweet in question. Hold up, how does the blocked person even know about the tweet? That should be an indication that we're not talking about reality any more. The purpose of the block button, which Elon still doesn't understand, is to remove your posts from that person's algorithmic feed. Make it so that they don't get exposed to or notifications about your content, at least without creating a new account (not much you can do about that). Why does that matter? Harassment. There are tons of people on Twitter, with large followings, that dunk-tweet or otherwise harass people, and in doing so end up triggering a brigade. If you've ever had the misfortune of being the victim of one of these negative engagements, you would understand how much this sucks. It destroys usability of the app as you have to wade through literally hundreds of cheap variation of middle school insults just to find any legitimate content. You can't block the hordes of marauding masses, but if you block the key instigators, the problem goes away. They can't interact with you or subtweet you, yes, but they ALSO aren't notified of the things you say, and therefore aren't likely to spread links to your content in private group chats where this trolling behavior is organized. You can autistically insist that akshully the block feature doesn't prevent someone from jumping through some hoops to view your tweets, but that's missing the point. It still solves a real world problem in its current form.

pbreit 2y ago

Unless they allow the reply but hide it from others (ie, shadowban).

ImPostingOnHN 2y ago

> I assume it still blocks actions when someone tries to interact with the user That would be weird, the block is there so you don't see their posts & replies, but your block shouldn't affect what they can do. Maybe other people want to see their replies, why should a third party block them from this? It would be like if IRC's /ignore function prevented someone from sending messages containing your name – weird. You should be able to block yourself off from anybody you wish, but not to control their public speech.

adastra22 2y ago

Logging out doesn’t work anymore. They would need to make an alt account.

danudey 2y ago
So since abusers, stalkers, and harassers can't just log out to view the blocker's posts, X is making it so that they can view those posts without logging out or changing to an alt account. That makes it a lot more convenient for people who were already blocked for bad behavior to get mad at what someone posted. Sounds like they're catering to the kinds of people who would normally have gotten around blocks by using private browsing.
swyx 2y ago
you guys are acting like the incognito window doesnt exist? literally one click away
- CydeWeys 2y ago
  It literally doesn't work. You need to be logged into Twitter to see basically anything. Twitter logged out experience is basically just a login page.
  - seattle_spring 2y ago
    Couldn't you just login with a different account?
    - adastra22 2y ago
      Sure. But let's look at where we are now. If you're blocked from viewing an account, you need to switch to a different account (possibly in an incognito window rather than adding the account?) and explicitly load the tweet in question. Hold up, how does the blocked person even know about the tweet? That should be an indication that we're not talking about reality any more. The purpose of the block button, which Elon still doesn't understand, is to remove your posts from that person's algorithmic feed. Make it so that they don't get exposed to or notifications about your content, at least without creating a new account (not much you can do about that). Why does that matter? Harassment. There are tons of people on Twitter, with large followings, that dunk-tweet or otherwise harass people, and in doing so end up triggering a brigade. If you've ever had the misfortune of being the victim of one of these negative engagements, you would understand how much this sucks. It destroys usability of the app as you have to wade through literally hundreds of cheap variation of middle school insults just to find any legitimate content. You can't block the hordes of marauding masses, but if you block the key instigators, the problem goes away. They can't interact with you or subtweet you, yes, but they ALSO aren't notified of the things you say, and therefore aren't likely to spread links to your content in private group chats where this trolling behavior is organized. You can autistically insist that akshully the block feature doesn't prevent someone from jumping through some hoops to view your tweets, but that's missing the point. It still solves a real world problem in its current form.