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With that kind of decisions, always assume that there is a hidden agenda. In that case, i could imagine for example that this can be something done to ease a f

With that kind of decisions, always assume that there is a hidden agenda. In that case, i could imagine for example that this can be something done to ease a further AI feature. it is almost impossible to train an AI for content with individual customization. So if Y is blocked to see your content, that is impossible to have AI trained on your tweets and still be sure that Y can't get the content of your tweets.

mwfogleman 2y ago
More simply: people are increasingly blocking advertisers to hide their advertisements. This would prevent you from shielding yourself from ads.
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  Really valid use case too. Very very common in recovery to block alcohol or gambling companies to avoid their ads.
- nokcha 2y ago
  It's the other way around: with the new change, the blockee will be able to see (but not reply to) the blocker's posts, but the blockee's posts will still be hidden from the blocker.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> With that kind of decisions, always assume that there is a hidden agenda What kind of decisions? Why? The motivation seems simple: increase engagement by broadening the amount of content someone can see / be shown.
- greatgib 2y ago
  Honestly I don't think that the few "blocked" tweets where you still can't interact with is making a real difference in term of ad monetizable engagement. You will see what will come next and it will be clear. If not for AI indexation, another hypothesis is something like removing the paywall needing an account to access user content or something like that.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > don't think that the few "blocked" tweets where you still can't interact with is making a real difference in term of ad monetizable engagement Engagement scales with outrage. If there is a singular marker of outrage, it's in blocking. > not for AI indexation Why would Twitter want to help third parties train their AI on its data? Musk already has an AI venture. If there were a secret agenda around AI, it would be in reducing visibility. Not increasing it. > removing the paywall needing an account to access user content What paywall? The sign-in wall? Again, why would Twitter have a hidden agenda to undermine something Twitter is doing to boost user numbers? These hypotheses are incoherent because they don't stem from any observations, but are trying to work backwards to justify the existence of a hidden agenda.
    - greatgib 2y ago
      For the AI indexation I didn't mean to help third parties read messages, more that for Musk own AI agent to be usable by the Public and able to use or reference tweets, he wouldn't need a shit storm where you use Groq to browse content that is normally blocked to you. Regarding the other hypothesis related to the "sign in" wall, based on number it looks like that this wall is not working anymore to boost users as the number of users is collapsing. So there might be a plan to enlarge "page views" and so user engagement by reopening the Public view of tweets.
silisili 2y ago
If the previous Elon/X rumors are true(a big if, perhaps), I feel like the hidden agenda here is more likely that someone blocked Musk and Musk is upset that he can no longer see the posts.
- dangerwill 2y ago
  Idk he has at least three alts (the weird baby role play one, Adrian Dittmann, DogeDesigner). Though maybe the people who have blocked him who he wants to see also know to block those to be fair
  - gordian-mind 2y ago
    These accounts do not seem to be alts.
- deleted 2y ago
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- wannacboatmovie 2y ago
  It's quite foolish to assume that they couldn't quietly code up a "God mode" for Elon's account, or assume that isn't already in place, and instead had to create a feature to roll out to 350M users where Elon had an account no different than the unwashed masses. It's his site, they would code up whatever he asked, X is no longer design by committee. Remember when the Reddit CEO/owner/whatever was hand editing the database to alter users' comments to make it look like they posted something they hadn't?
  - anticensor 2y ago
    > It's quite foolish to assume that they couldn't quietly code up a "God mode" for Elon's account, or assume that isn't already in place, and instead had to create a feature to roll out to 350M users where Elon had an account no different than the unwashed masses. Maybe they want to keep the code simple or ready for immediate open sourcing if desired.

mwfogleman 2y ago

More simply: people are increasingly blocking advertisers to hide their advertisements. This would prevent you from shielding yourself from ads.

giraffe_lady 2y ago
Really valid use case too. Very very common in recovery to block alcohol or gambling companies to avoid their ads.
nokcha 2y ago
It's the other way around: with the new change, the blockee will be able to see (but not reply to) the blocker's posts, but the blockee's posts will still be hidden from the blocker.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> With that kind of decisions, always assume that there is a hidden agenda What kind of decisions? Why? The motivation seems simple: increase engagement by broadening the amount of content someone can see / be shown.

greatgib 2y ago
Honestly I don't think that the few "blocked" tweets where you still can't interact with is making a real difference in term of ad monetizable engagement. You will see what will come next and it will be clear. If not for AI indexation, another hypothesis is something like removing the paywall needing an account to access user content or something like that.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > don't think that the few "blocked" tweets where you still can't interact with is making a real difference in term of ad monetizable engagement Engagement scales with outrage. If there is a singular marker of outrage, it's in blocking. > not for AI indexation Why would Twitter want to help third parties train their AI on its data? Musk already has an AI venture. If there were a secret agenda around AI, it would be in reducing visibility. Not increasing it. > removing the paywall needing an account to access user content What paywall? The sign-in wall? Again, why would Twitter have a hidden agenda to undermine something Twitter is doing to boost user numbers? These hypotheses are incoherent because they don't stem from any observations, but are trying to work backwards to justify the existence of a hidden agenda.
  - greatgib 2y ago
    For the AI indexation I didn't mean to help third parties read messages, more that for Musk own AI agent to be usable by the Public and able to use or reference tweets, he wouldn't need a shit storm where you use Groq to browse content that is normally blocked to you. Regarding the other hypothesis related to the "sign in" wall, based on number it looks like that this wall is not working anymore to boost users as the number of users is collapsing. So there might be a plan to enlarge "page views" and so user engagement by reopening the Public view of tweets.

silisili 2y ago

If the previous Elon/X rumors are true(a big if, perhaps), I feel like the hidden agenda here is more likely that someone blocked Musk and Musk is upset that he can no longer see the posts.

dangerwill 2y ago
Idk he has at least three alts (the weird baby role play one, Adrian Dittmann, DogeDesigner). Though maybe the people who have blocked him who he wants to see also know to block those to be fair
- gordian-mind 2y ago
  These accounts do not seem to be alts.
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wannacboatmovie 2y ago
It's quite foolish to assume that they couldn't quietly code up a "God mode" for Elon's account, or assume that isn't already in place, and instead had to create a feature to roll out to 350M users where Elon had an account no different than the unwashed masses. It's his site, they would code up whatever he asked, X is no longer design by committee. Remember when the Reddit CEO/owner/whatever was hand editing the database to alter users' comments to make it look like they posted something they hadn't?
- anticensor 2y ago
  > It's quite foolish to assume that they couldn't quietly code up a "God mode" for Elon's account, or assume that isn't already in place, and instead had to create a feature to roll out to 350M users where Elon had an account no different than the unwashed masses. Maybe they want to keep the code simple or ready for immediate open sourcing if desired.