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It's not exclusively WASPs, but these do form the basic core of this elite capture project. Ivy leaguers don't wear tweed and calfskins anymore, they're in doc

It's not exclusively WASPs, but these do form the basic core of this elite capture project. Ivy leaguers don't wear tweed and calfskins anymore, they're in doc martens protesting at someone's oppressive use of an emoji.

woodruffw 2y ago
What exactly do you think WASP is short for? By almost every metric, the period of political and cultural ascendancy for American WASPs ended at least a generation ago. Consider the backgrounds of our last 3 presidents, as well as our next one (regardless of who it is). (What’s so bewildering about this is that your framing suggests that it wasn’t the WASPs who were in tweed before, but some other demographic from whom the WASPs wrested the elite status. But the exact opposite is - rightfully - the case.)
- mjburgess 2y ago
  I'm not sure why you think I'm talking about presidents. Go and have a look at who the sorts of people I'm talking about are, you'll find a lot of rich white people dressing-down. Who do you think their parents are? > your framing suggests that it wasn’t the WASPs who I don't see where I said this. WASPs have fallen from the presidency to bitching in newspapers, sure; and in random social organisations. That's my point. Their children are now bleeding-heart vipers going around, as their parents did, inserting themselves in positions of power as best they are able: "Representing" the interests of other groups who've they've almost no experience or understanding of. If you havent noticed yet, have a look. When you see this kind of intra-elite warefare taking place, go look at the pictures of who's involved. Have a look at their bios. It's often a lot of upper-middle class white children playing games. Go walk into one of the top universities in the world.
  - woodruffw 2y ago
    > I'm not sure why you think I'm talking about presidents. Because you’re also talking about universities and social organizations as if Python broadly resembles either :-) The point was that, in relative terms, WASPs today have less political and cultural capital than they’ve ever had at any previous point before in the US’s history. Which is a good thing. (This is why I wanted you to spell out what you think WASP stands for. It isn’t “rich and annoying white person with social capital,” despite the fact that many WASPs are that.)

woodruffw 2y ago

What exactly do you think WASP is short for? By almost every metric, the period of political and cultural ascendancy for American WASPs ended at least a generation ago. Consider the backgrounds of our last 3 presidents, as well as our next one (regardless of who it is). (What’s so bewildering about this is that your framing suggests that it wasn’t the WASPs who were in tweed before, but some other demographic from whom the WASPs wrested the elite status. But the exact opposite is - rightfully - the case.)

mjburgess 2y ago
I'm not sure why you think I'm talking about presidents. Go and have a look at who the sorts of people I'm talking about are, you'll find a lot of rich white people dressing-down. Who do you think their parents are? > your framing suggests that it wasn’t the WASPs who I don't see where I said this. WASPs have fallen from the presidency to bitching in newspapers, sure; and in random social organisations. That's my point. Their children are now bleeding-heart vipers going around, as their parents did, inserting themselves in positions of power as best they are able: "Representing" the interests of other groups who've they've almost no experience or understanding of. If you havent noticed yet, have a look. When you see this kind of intra-elite warefare taking place, go look at the pictures of who's involved. Have a look at their bios. It's often a lot of upper-middle class white children playing games. Go walk into one of the top universities in the world.
- woodruffw 2y ago
  > I'm not sure why you think I'm talking about presidents. Because you’re also talking about universities and social organizations as if Python broadly resembles either :-) The point was that, in relative terms, WASPs today have less political and cultural capital than they’ve ever had at any previous point before in the US’s history. Which is a good thing. (This is why I wanted you to spell out what you think WASP stands for. It isn’t “rich and annoying white person with social capital,” despite the fact that many WASPs are that.)