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Right. And anime tends to stick very closely to the manga which inspired it, because, commercially, it's often a vehicle designed to increase the sales of that

Right. And anime tends to stick very closely to the manga which inspired it, because, commercially, it's often a vehicle designed to increase the sales of that manga. Take Dungeon Meshi, for instance: The anime only covered about half of the material of the manga. So if you liked the show and you want to know how the story ends, you've got to pick up the books. If the showrunners changed important plot points, finishing the story might not be so easy... The Dungeon Meshi anime probably made some money on its own account, but there are a lot of marginal anime series that aren't really designed to make money, but are intended to increase awareness/sales of various manga properties.

spondylosaurus 2y ago
Dunmeshi's getting a second season—hopefully enough ground to cover the rest of the series :)
AdmiralAsshat 2y ago
The anime following manga orthodoxy is a relatively recent thing, especially compared to earlier 90's adaptations. Compare Sailor Moon, Helsing, etc, where they deviated so far that both of them got subsequent "re-do" animes that tried to more explicitly follow the manga. I would argue that reinterpretations/taking liberties aren't always a bad thing. I went back and watched the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure OVA from the 90's that compressed/deviated the Stardust Crusaders arc considerably, especially compared to the more recent anime, which follows the manga panels to a 't'. I would argue the OVA holds up very well and makes some necessary edits for the sake of the pacing. Plus, the OVA staff clearly did their research, because OVA Egypt feels way more authentic than anime Egypt (which looked like your stereotypical mishmash of Middle East/India).
- phatfish 2y ago
  Fullmetal Alchemist and the redo Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is the one I'm familiar with. Also the "filler" episodes from Naruto. It seems like mega series with 200+ episodes where fillers are needed aren't getting made now? Demon Slayer is only on 63 for example.
  - hibikir 2y ago
    The filler episodes were traditional whenever a popular manga for boys was forced to put way too many episodes for economic reasons. While Naruto is the poster child of the problem, as the ratio of anime only content vs adapted is through the roof, we could see it many years before with Dragonball. Animation standards have gone up enough, and there are so many more competitor series, that just needing to fill a broadcast TV slot forever just isn't as important as back in the day. The levels of animation repetition of the Sailor Moons and Captain Tsubasas of the day, which allowed for a lot of episodes with a reasonable budget, would be seen as unacceptable today.
- t-3 2y ago
  It's even more than anime following manga - it's anime following manga following light novels. The vast majority of new anime were first successful novels and manga before getting an anime adaptation. The pathological and deeply systemic aversion to risk is extremely obvious. This is also why so many series are extremely generic - the same tropes and tired character archetypes, the same storyline that's been done 1000x - writing webnovels is a huge industry in east Asia, and the dynamics are very similar to print-magazine/newspaper periodicals but even more so.
- Ekaros 2y ago
  I think Hellsing was an other case of working on IP that was not complete. Manga run from 1997 to 2008 original anime from 2001 to 2002. So missing significant part of material from Manga... So with pressure to somehow fill 13 episodes, something have to be invented.

spondylosaurus 2y ago

Dunmeshi's getting a second season—hopefully enough ground to cover the rest of the series :)

AdmiralAsshat 2y ago

The anime following manga orthodoxy is a relatively recent thing, especially compared to earlier 90's adaptations. Compare Sailor Moon, Helsing, etc, where they deviated so far that both of them got subsequent "re-do" animes that tried to more explicitly follow the manga. I would argue that reinterpretations/taking liberties aren't always a bad thing. I went back and watched the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure OVA from the 90's that compressed/deviated the Stardust Crusaders arc considerably, especially compared to the more recent anime, which follows the manga panels to a 't'. I would argue the OVA holds up very well and makes some necessary edits for the sake of the pacing. Plus, the OVA staff clearly did their research, because OVA Egypt feels way more authentic than anime Egypt (which looked like your stereotypical mishmash of Middle East/India).

phatfish 2y ago
Fullmetal Alchemist and the redo Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is the one I'm familiar with. Also the "filler" episodes from Naruto. It seems like mega series with 200+ episodes where fillers are needed aren't getting made now? Demon Slayer is only on 63 for example.
- hibikir 2y ago
  The filler episodes were traditional whenever a popular manga for boys was forced to put way too many episodes for economic reasons. While Naruto is the poster child of the problem, as the ratio of anime only content vs adapted is through the roof, we could see it many years before with Dragonball. Animation standards have gone up enough, and there are so many more competitor series, that just needing to fill a broadcast TV slot forever just isn't as important as back in the day. The levels of animation repetition of the Sailor Moons and Captain Tsubasas of the day, which allowed for a lot of episodes with a reasonable budget, would be seen as unacceptable today.
t-3 2y ago
It's even more than anime following manga - it's anime following manga following light novels. The vast majority of new anime were first successful novels and manga before getting an anime adaptation. The pathological and deeply systemic aversion to risk is extremely obvious. This is also why so many series are extremely generic - the same tropes and tired character archetypes, the same storyline that's been done 1000x - writing webnovels is a huge industry in east Asia, and the dynamics are very similar to print-magazine/newspaper periodicals but even more so.
Ekaros 2y ago
I think Hellsing was an other case of working on IP that was not complete. Manga run from 1997 to 2008 original anime from 2001 to 2002. So missing significant part of material from Manga... So with pressure to somehow fill 13 episodes, something have to be invented.