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Fate/SN was originally a porno before it became a non-prono anime before it became Fate/Grand Order. Fate/ is one of the weirdest meta-stories of all time. The

Fate/SN was originally a porno before it became a non-prono anime before it became Fate/Grand Order. Fate/ is one of the weirdest meta-stories of all time. The evolution of that universe is utterly fascinating to me, more so than the actual story today. The gist is that Nasu always wanted to create a Comic book style shared universe, and that Nasu sees himself as a Stan Lee or George Lucas type who is in charge of a community of writers rather than just writing one singular plot.

Terr_ 2y ago
> Fate/ is one of the weirdest meta-stories of all time. That reminds me of a not-really-description I read once about Homestuck, basically saying that the many manifestations/spinoffs are too twisty to be worth explaining. BTW, this comment is not a request for clarification, I'm fine with my ignorance on the franchise itself.
Zircom 2y ago
Calling FSN a porno because it has sex scenes is like calling Wolf of Wall Street a porno just because it has sex scenes. It's extremely reductive and entirely inaccurate. There's like literally 3 or 4 h-scenes in the entire novel, and collectively they all probably make up less than a few percent of the text/screentime.
- dragontamer 2y ago
  I'm calling it a porno because said scenes have foreplay, climax and a full frontal nudity moneyshot. It's just 3 or 4 scenes. But they are clearly full on pornographic scenes. They are also completely irrelevant to the story and were removed from later adaptations. --------- I'm mildly convinced that Nasu started with the pornographic market so that his story would be the king-of-porn first, building up a niche within that sub community first. It's highly unusual for pornographic stories to receive the shear detail and writing effort that went into F/SN. Call it the Facebook strategy. Don't aim to be king of all the market, instead aim to be king of some sub-niche first. You can always pivot away later. But you are correct in that the level of detail and character development even in the original novel far exceeds that of any porno. But I argue that this fact was Nasus explicit strategy for growth.
- RockRobotRock 2y ago
  Read the second sentence on the Wikipedia page.

Terr_ 2y ago

> Fate/ is one of the weirdest meta-stories of all time. That reminds me of a not-really-description I read once about Homestuck, basically saying that the many manifestations/spinoffs are too twisty to be worth explaining. BTW, this comment is not a request for clarification, I'm fine with my ignorance on the franchise itself.

Zircom 2y ago

Calling FSN a porno because it has sex scenes is like calling Wolf of Wall Street a porno just because it has sex scenes. It's extremely reductive and entirely inaccurate. There's like literally 3 or 4 h-scenes in the entire novel, and collectively they all probably make up less than a few percent of the text/screentime.

dragontamer 2y ago
I'm calling it a porno because said scenes have foreplay, climax and a full frontal nudity moneyshot. It's just 3 or 4 scenes. But they are clearly full on pornographic scenes. They are also completely irrelevant to the story and were removed from later adaptations. --------- I'm mildly convinced that Nasu started with the pornographic market so that his story would be the king-of-porn first, building up a niche within that sub community first. It's highly unusual for pornographic stories to receive the shear detail and writing effort that went into F/SN. Call it the Facebook strategy. Don't aim to be king of all the market, instead aim to be king of some sub-niche first. You can always pivot away later. But you are correct in that the level of detail and character development even in the original novel far exceeds that of any porno. But I argue that this fact was Nasus explicit strategy for growth.
RockRobotRock 2y ago
Read the second sentence on the Wikipedia page.