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What a German thing to say. How is this different from "I don't have anything to hide"?
by ilumanty 2y ago
What a German thing to say. How is this different from "I don't have anything to hide"?
- croes 2y agoThe difference is they don't hand over the data of all their users but of specific ones, just like every other entity does if you have a warrant for that user.
- raxxorraxor 2y agoYou get warrants in Germany for nothing, that is not an excuse. Call an official a penis and the next judge will steal all your digital equipment.
- croes 2y agoYou arguing about the when, I'm talking about the if. That many warrant aren't worth the paper they are written on is a different issue.
- raxxorraxor 2y agoThe issue becomes far more pronounced if the state is able to determine your identity through your phone number, which in Germany is usually tightly coupled to your identity. I don't need 3rd rate officials being in a position to judge my communication for some badly defined security benefit that allegedly would manifest for the whole society. Plus Germany still has quite a bad record here. After WWII it didn't stop to invent new forms of totalitarianism through surveillance. The German state is not ready to have that power.
- arlort 2y agoBecause the criticism of the "I don't have anything to hide" mentality is meant to support requiring warrants, due process and all that It's not an argument the abolition of all criminal investigations in which a police officer is not a direct witness
- raxxorraxor 2y agoRequiring a warrant is no sensible protection in Germany specifically and the saying certainly would include the situation in Germany.