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I 'member YouTube back when it wasn't all dog shit. People uploaded their cats, dogs and other pets doing pet shenanigans. Some youth went viral uploading video
by mschuster91 2y ago
I 'member YouTube back when it wasn't all dog shit. People uploaded their cats, dogs and other pets doing pet shenanigans. Some youth went viral uploading videos of harmless pranks. A ton of people made very good educational content. Some put up chunks of concerts, modern bootleggers.
But nowadays? Content theft runs utterly rampant - and I'm not talking about the oh-so-poor multi billion movie conglomerates being the victims here. I'm talking about the countless content farms that get by just 1:1 re-uploading other people's videos. I'm talking about "meme pages" that do just the same, not even bothering to tag the original creators of the stuff they steal. I'm talking about "reaction video" streamers that not just (again) steal other people's content, but often enough drive their rabid fanbase to dogpile upon whomever/whatever they "reacted" upon. All of that driven by the sweet sweet nectar of YouTube Ad revenue sharing.
And that's just the relatively harmless content thieves. Money also drives a lot of other very problematic kinds of YouTubers, especially ever since sponsoring became the norm rather than the exception for those creating high value/effort content: shilling literally dangerous and unsafe supplements, one-shoe-fits-all VPNs promising much but delivering not much to people who don't need them (other than, ironically, to bypass Youtube's geoblocking), even more supplements, cryptocurrencies, various forms of gambling, questionable "mental health" providers that deliver pages upon pages of warnings and horror stories when you just search once for them, scams like "Established Titles" [1]...
Then come all the "pranks" and "challenges" that often enough led to kids and youths injuring themselves in the process [2] (and sometimes unfortunately even killing them such as with the Tide pod challenge [3]), or outright anti-social behavior that got cheered upon by rowdy commenters. Some particularly braindead, ruthless (or however else you want to call them) arseholes exploit homeless people for clicks [6].
And finally, the politics. The alt-right/incel/conspiracy radicalisation funnel has been documented to insane depths [4], but nowadays it seems to have shifted mostly to TikTok [7] as YouTube (finally) took action after widespread media reports [5].
Oh and then the personalities. It sucks that so many streamers - particularly in the German scene [8] - ended up with allegations of all sorts of misconduct. Domestic violence, sexual abuse, grooming of minors in their fan base, the same shit that happens to a lot of stars that got popular as kids, the fame ruins their heads and makes them believe they can get away with anything.
I miss the old Internet, one that was not dominated by people willing to sell out everyone and their dog for clicks and ad revenue. Probably the only YouTuber I can actually still recommend who a) never shilled bullshit in his career and b) still does the same good content he started with is DaveHax. Even Simon's Cat has gone down the drain years ago when every new video turned out to be 75%+ recycled older material...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Established_Titles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Established_Titles
[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/01/17/youtubes-now-banned-dangerous-pranks-were-problem-long-before-bird-box-challenge/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/01/17/youtube...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumption_of_Tide_Pods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumption_of_Tide_Pods
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right_pipeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right_pipeline
[5] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/23/youtube-google-boycott-att-verizon-pull-adverts-extremism https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/23/youtube-g...
[6] https://www.vice.com/en/article/homeless-people-are-not-props-leave-it-out-424/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/homeless-people-are-not-prop...
[7] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1472586X.2023.2274890 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1472586X.2023.2...
[8] https://www.ingame.de/news/streaming/streamer-skandale-2022-twitch-rueckblick-youtube-aufreger-deutschland-montanablack-fritz-meinecke-hamburg-91986929.html https://www.ingame.de/news/streaming/streamer-skandale-2022-...
- gwbas1c 2y ago> I 'member YouTube back when it wasn't all dog shit. And that was...? The first video I ever watched on Youtube, in 2005, was a teenager acting goofy in front of the camera. The second video I ever watched on YouTube, in 2005, was teenagers goofing around a toilet, and I turned it off because I thought they were going to show actual shit in the toilet. Oh, wait, you said dog shit. That was human shit. My bad. But, jokes aside, the whole point of YouTube is that anyone can upload anything. There are no gatekeepers. What do you expect? The content was always shit from the beginning; the only thing that's changed is that it turns out that, if you remove the gatekeepers, people will exploit it. (And if you have gatekeepers, the gatekeepers exploit their power.)
- mschuster91 2y ago> And that was...? Probably around the same time as yours. > But, jokes aside, the whole point of YouTube is that anyone can upload anything. There are no gatekeepers. What do you expect? The content was always shit from the beginning; the only thing that's changed is that it turns out that, if you remove the gatekeepers, people will exploit it. (And if you have gatekeepers, the gatekeepers exploit their power.) Well there are gatekeepers: moderation! It's one thing during the beginning of YouTube... but honestly, YouTube could and should go and detect viral trends (they do it anyway to present to users) and moderate stuff that's dangerous.
- gwbas1c 2y ago> Well there are gatekeepers: moderation! It's one thing during the beginning of YouTube... but honestly, YouTube could and should go and detect viral trends (they do it anyway to present to users) and moderate stuff that's dangerous. I agree, but that's easier said than done. At a certain point it costs money to pay someone to watch all the popular videos. (It's very clear that this isn't something that can be 100% AI, although I'm sure AI could help to some degree.)
- mschuster91 2y agoYouTube makes 31 billion dollars a year in advertising revenue. I am sure they could afford paying a couple hundred people with fluency in popular languages to do actual content moderation instead of abusing the general public to notice stuff going bad and press/courts as support system.