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You are aware the United States laws do not extend outside its jurisdiction? Why do you believe 4th amendment protections are enforceable in Argentina?

elmerfud 2y ago
If you don't believe that United States law extends outside of its jurisdiction the Coast guard would like to have a word with you which enforces US maritime law around the world in international waters. Additionally US routinely enforces its law in various aspects around the world in different countries. The US also controls what laws from other countries its citizens are allowed to enforce. Lastly Google being a US company that operates internationally, they should absolutely refuse to honor any of this as it is in direct violation of the laws of its home country.
- rysertio 2y ago
  Unless the US passes extensive legislation to prevent US companies from unlawfully accessing their clients devices all over the world, Google will comply. But the US isnt likely to do that.
- croes 2y ago
  You wish. This is a about Pirate IPTV , it's more likely the US will adapt this approach by finding a legal loop hole to do so.
- drpossum 2y ago
  I don't think you read the article at all. The order was explicitly only for Argentinians.
  - elmerfud 2y ago
    But that order must be enforced by Google. Argentina cannot enforce it unilaterally arbitrarily without Google's help. I'm not sure you understand the mechanism of enforcement that they are requesting.
    - thrill 2y ago
      What's next? Courts in Brazil order Twitter to censor stuff?
    - squidgedcricket 2y ago
      [dead]
- Kon-Peki 2y ago
  > If you don't believe that United States law extends outside of its jurisdiction the Coast guard would like to have a word with you which enforces US maritime law around the world in international waters Do you have a specific complaint? US courts do not allow lawsuits for things that happen in international waters unless they pass an 8-part test. But at the same time, UN law of the sea treaties say that any nation may combat piracy in international waters. On top of that is the UN Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Maritime Navigation [1], which adds a number of additional acts that any nation may enforce in international waters. But you should probably be glad that the US is doing the bulk of this: The United Nations is perfectly ok with a sham "trial" of any suspected wrong-doer followed by summary execution and throwing the body overboard. The US does not allow that. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Suppression_of_Unlawful_Acts_against_the_Safety_of_Maritime_Navigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Suppression...
gmuslera 2y ago
GDPR, DMCA and similar laws seem to disagree.
- drpossum 2y ago
  If you think the GDPR is enforceable in the US you should let the surveillance capitalism industry know. You won't have to report back when you're done. We'll hear the laughing.

elmerfud 2y ago

If you don't believe that United States law extends outside of its jurisdiction the Coast guard would like to have a word with you which enforces US maritime law around the world in international waters. Additionally US routinely enforces its law in various aspects around the world in different countries. The US also controls what laws from other countries its citizens are allowed to enforce. Lastly Google being a US company that operates internationally, they should absolutely refuse to honor any of this as it is in direct violation of the laws of its home country.

rysertio 2y ago
Unless the US passes extensive legislation to prevent US companies from unlawfully accessing their clients devices all over the world, Google will comply. But the US isnt likely to do that.
croes 2y ago
You wish. This is a about Pirate IPTV , it's more likely the US will adapt this approach by finding a legal loop hole to do so.
drpossum 2y ago
I don't think you read the article at all. The order was explicitly only for Argentinians.
- elmerfud 2y ago
  But that order must be enforced by Google. Argentina cannot enforce it unilaterally arbitrarily without Google's help. I'm not sure you understand the mechanism of enforcement that they are requesting.
  - thrill 2y ago
    What's next? Courts in Brazil order Twitter to censor stuff?
  - squidgedcricket 2y ago
    [dead]
Kon-Peki 2y ago
> If you don't believe that United States law extends outside of its jurisdiction the Coast guard would like to have a word with you which enforces US maritime law around the world in international waters Do you have a specific complaint? US courts do not allow lawsuits for things that happen in international waters unless they pass an 8-part test. But at the same time, UN law of the sea treaties say that any nation may combat piracy in international waters. On top of that is the UN Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Maritime Navigation [1], which adds a number of additional acts that any nation may enforce in international waters. But you should probably be glad that the US is doing the bulk of this: The United Nations is perfectly ok with a sham "trial" of any suspected wrong-doer followed by summary execution and throwing the body overboard. The US does not allow that. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Suppression_of_Unlawful_Acts_against_the_Safety_of_Maritime_Navigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Suppression...

gmuslera 2y ago

GDPR, DMCA and similar laws seem to disagree.

drpossum 2y ago
If you think the GDPR is enforceable in the US you should let the surveillance capitalism industry know. You won't have to report back when you're done. We'll hear the laughing.