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Show HN: Media Hoarder v1.4.0 Supporting TV Series, Introducing Episode Heatmaps

• pdimitar 2y ago
  Thanks so much for posting this. Instant bookmark. Do you plan on writing comparisons with other tools like Jellyfin and Kyoo?
  • MK2k 2y ago
    You're welcome :) I didn't plan to do direct comparisons, but it's not the first time someone asked about this, I might have to do it...
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• beeboobaa3 2y ago
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  • MK2k 2y ago
    It's more Kodi-like (no client-server) necessary. The only "AI" in it is that you can run a ChatGPT session which creates a filter (e.g. "give me the top 10 oscar winning movies of the 90s"). It's a nice feature but not the heart of Media Hoarder. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi2vfPpOEGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi2vfPpOEGQ
  • appendix-rock 2y ago
    What justifies you using the pejorative ‘knock-off’ when the same descriptor could literally be used for projects that you included in your list? No need to be so disparaging. It feels like you did a quick skim of the README, picked out one thing you didn’t like, and worked backwards from that negative kneejerk reaction. Don’t misrepresent that as you having had a real look.
    • uNki 2y ago
      Exactly. Take a look at the GitHub repo and the shit-ton of work that obviously went into this product - for free.
• uNki 2y ago
  I'm more of a streamer and used to things like JustWatch and like it a lot. But your solution provides such an intuitive, comprehensive and complete UX at a really amazing speed. Like IMDB and JustWatch combined on steroids. Kudos!
• elflaune 2y ago
  Can it save metadata in nfo files so that kodi can read them? Kodi scraper is really inaccurate imo.
  • MK2k 2y ago
    Yes, someone (you?) can create a "Kodi .nfo" exporter from the SQLite database.
• at_a_remove 2y ago
  I think this may be one of the wares I looked at when I was hoping to build a catalog of at least my visual media. Something in the sense of "I have this on a DVD, I have that on Blu-Ray" or "I have this as an .mp4." However, this was complicated by looking for something open-source enough that I could stick my fingers in the database and go from there to bring the catalog, or something like it, to a webpage.
• Glide 2y ago
  I just _refreshed_ my setup replacing my shield and trying to get Emby and Kodi working together… This looks great especially since I have complete collections of various sci if stuff I loved growing up (Star Trek: TNG, Star Gate). The big thing for me is how this supports sitting on the couch and looking for something to watch.
  • unethical_ban 2y ago
    I've been using Jellyfin on Windows server (Arc GPU) for server, Shield for client, it's been working pretty well. What hardware are you using?
    • VTimofeenko 2y ago
      I am thinking about picking up a shield as a client in a similar setup. If you're using subtitles -- does the shield handle them well? That's the part that keeps breaking in the native TV client.
      • entropicdrifter 2y ago
        The Shield uses the same Jellyfin client as any AndroidTV/GoogleTV box. You can use Kodi on the Shield if you want native support for more subtitle formats, but that's also true of other AndroidTV/GoogleTV devices.
      • JeremyNT 2y ago
        I use Kodi with the jellyfin plugins on my shield and it works well. Subtitle support is pretty good but occasionally I need to restart the app to get new subs to display for a show. The native jellyfin client is ok for simple things but it's far more limited than Kodi.
      • unethical_ban 2y ago
        The subtitles I use are most often ones in separate files alongside the video files, named appropriately for the jellyfin server to see it. I think embedded subs work well too, sometimes needing burning in, but my server can handle transcoding.
• pimlottc 2y ago
  This looks cool but I was thrown by how the heatmaps were organized; having seasons as rows and episodes as columns would be more natural to me.
  • MK2k 2y ago
    Feel free to open up an issue on GitHub, maybe we introduce an option on how heatmaps are shown :)
    • throwaway314155 2y ago
      It is so strange to me when people get downvoted for suggesting a possible solution is to volunteer some effort. HN is all about open source until someone mentions creating a PR or even just a simple issue. Is this forum the definitive spot for complaining about software? Filing an issue on GitHub is the correct thing to do. It has higher visibility for a longer period of time than a hacker news comment and is more likely to resolve the issue while wasting less time of the maintainer's and anyone else using the software. edit: It seems you've been upvoted back to normal. Ignore me.
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      • taskforcegemini 2y ago
        isn't "show hn" also meant to get some feedback? responding to feedback with a counterrequest seems off
        • throwaway314155 2y ago
          If it were a product or merely a project, you would be correct. But, open source software has too many users who think they are owed free features as it is. What's more, there's a high possibility that people on this particular forum actually have the skills to implement a proper PR. Finally, their comment clearly wasn't meant as a dismissive counter request but rather as an invitation for mutual excitement, and even an admission that the criticism was correct, but would be better served on the Github repository.
• Brajeshwar 2y ago
  My personal thoughts; When there are quite a few well-established media storage/player solutions/toolings, you should look into starting your marketing page with why you are different or better than the others. Most reasons for people moving between tools is the lack of the features in the ones that users are using and hoping it is in the new one. Of course, if you can get a lot of testimonials then that should work better.
  • MK2k 2y ago
    You're right and I am and was hesitant to put Media Hoarder directly against established solutions on the front page. I created a blog post about this when v1.0.0 was released (maybe a bit too hidden): https://media.hoarder.software/blog/why-media-hoarder https://media.hoarder.software/blog/why-media-hoarder
  • NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago
    I can't wait until he's so successful that he abandons all of his original users/customers, and tries to become some sort of third tier streaming solution that can only license movies that used to be completely unknown outside of Walmart "2 DVDs for $5" bargain bins.
    • MK2k 2y ago
      this made me chuckle, yes, it's not gonna happen :D
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• AlfeG 2y ago
  I love pricing page.
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• candiddevmike 2y ago
  Interesting license choice. Where'd you find it/what motivated you to choose it?
  • MK2k 2y ago
    My pacifist nature lead the choice and I probably saw that license on some other random projects iirc.
  • rpdillon 2y ago
    Thanks for bringing this up. I hadn't noticed it. > The software may not be used by anyone for systems or activities that actively and knowingly endanger, harm, or otherwise threaten the physical, mental, economic, or general well-being of other individuals or groups I'm not sure how the United Nations defines economic harm, but if anybody's using this to view pirated content, it seems like they might not have a license to it (and using it would be a separate copyright violation). But I suppose if you're pirating your media anyway, violating the media center's copyright wouldn't really be a concern.
• CrypticShift 2y ago
  Would it be possible to import titles as a text list, instead of requiring files? I'm not a hoarder, but I do have a (very) long Excel file of movies and documentaries that I want to watch or have already watched. Most of them are available on streaming sites or for rent/download on demand. You've got a great IMDb scraper and filtering UI. That's all I really need! :)
  • MK2k 2y ago
    Still based on files, however, Media Hoarder doesn't care if you feed it 0-byte files. So yes, you can export your Excel file as such. Actually, I do use 0-byte files in my tests and demos. They are artificially created in the following way: https://github.com/theMK2k/media-hoarder-testset-generator https://github.com/theMK2k/media-hoarder-testset-generator
    • yegle 2y ago
      Sounds like you can generate a folder of files from an input excel using FUSE.
• slightwinder 2y ago
  This really needs some explanation, in text, of what it's actually doing and what media means here.
  • MK2k 2y ago
    Thanks, I wasn't aware that it might leave room for interpretation or confusion.
  • diggan 2y ago
    Literally the first sentence is "Media Hoarder is THE frontend for your Movie and TV Series collection if you love metadata, filter abilities and easy management." and secondly there is a huge screenshot below that with everything you need to understand. Not sure how it can be made any more clear than what it is?
    • slightwinder 2y ago
      This is not really explaining the purpose. Does it scan video-Files to collect entries? Or is it manual input? Can I import data from somewhere? Does it play files? Does it integrate into netflix&co. to gather new entries? And let's not talk about more special features.. Why is it called media, when it seems to only handle movies & series? There are many more types and categories of media. And why is the feature-list on Github just a long list of filters, while it at the same time sells itself as "THE frontend" for whatever it's doing. The small bit of data managment and filters I see on github is on the level of an excel-sheet, which very far from what I would call "THE frontend". So my question is, what is missing here?
      • diggan 2y ago
        > This is not really explaining the purpose. Does it scan video-Files to collect entries? Or is it manual input? Can I import data from somewhere? Does it play files? Does it integrate into netflix&co. to gather new entries? And let's not talk about more special features.. Those are all either answered in the README, answered in files linked from the README or not mentioned in the README/docs (like Netflix integration, playing files) so one can feel safe to assume it's not a feature if it's not listed as a feature.
• dnpls 2y ago
  It would be interesting to integrate it with Trakt data so I can sync the watched / watchlist from my Trakt library and find new movies and series to watch.
• cormorant 2y ago
  So, like, this is for pirated movies and TV shows, right? This and all the alternatives mentioned in the comments too? Or are people really ripping DVDs and Blu-Rays from huge personal collections?
  • diggan 2y ago
    > So, like, this is for pirated movies and TV shows, right? Can be used, probably yeah. Doesn't mean that's the primary purpose. I know plenty of people who buy DVDs and rip them as it's easier to play it back than letting kids fiddle around with DVD players and disks.
    • RajT88 2y ago
      Can confirm I know some folks who rip their DVD/BluRay collection to stream in the home. There's other use cases as well: - DVR'd recordings - Public domain videos - Archived web content - Home videos / Phone videos I actually use JellyFin for all of these use cases, and also rip my movie collection using Handbrake. Do most people use it for pirated content? Probably.
  • kupopuffs 2y ago
    The library is a pirate's best friend
• nixosbestos 2y ago
  So can I "cast" content managed in this system? Does it integrate with Jellyfin? Or is this STRICTLY about managing the files + metadata and you're still expected to use it alongside Plex/Jellyfish's own metadata management? I found it surprisingly hard to answer this question poking around at the website and links shared in this thread.
  • MK2k 2y ago
    If "alongside Plex, Jellyfin" would be an intended use-case then I would've involved those names in the README or website. Of course you can run Media Hoarder alongside them, it won't interfere, but that'd be about it.
    • paranoidrobot 2y ago
      I had similar questions after seeing the release info and doing a quick scan. I came to the HN Comments here and the first thing I see is someone asking exactly what I was wondering, followed by this: > If "alongside Plex, Jellyfin" would be an intended use-case then I would've involved those names in the README or website. I appreciate that this is an open source project you've likely put hundreds or thousands of hours of work into. You're under no obligation to be 'nice' or polite to people. But the perceived tone of this reply doesn't leave a positive impression. I see others have also left similarly... negative? sarcastic? replies to other questions about it. While it may be obvious to you, and other dedicated users - seeing that it's a "frontend" to a media collection doesn't really clarify it.
      • nixosbestos 2y ago
        I still have no freaking idea if I can play media through it or with it and at this point, I really don't care.
    • Larrikin 2y ago
      Information that you can and it doesn't interfere would be useful information. Having an alternative to Tautili and/or getting more information on my media sounds nice. But I have the media so I can watch it, and if it interferes with that then I am not personally interested.
• RockRobotRock 2y ago
  Going up against the *arrs is no small feat. What sets you apart?
  • MK2k 2y ago
    First of all, I don't use any arr. From what I see the arr tools are used for obtaining media, less so presenting and providing a UI. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that *arr tools and Media Hoarder might actually go well together.
    • RockRobotRock 2y ago
      Each project is separated in terms of the type of media they're used for (ex. Sonarr for TV, Radarr for Movies), but they share a common design language. They don't obtain media directly, but are commonly paired with Usenet/BitTorrent to obtain media. Aside from that, they allow similar functionality in terms of a pretty UI to organize and manage your collection. They have no playback functionality, though. You should definitely look into them more because there's a huge overlap. Focus on what can set your project apart.
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• oxygen_crisis 2y ago
  Has anyone rolled this into a docker container yet? Would you like me to share if I can't find one and wind up doing it myself?
• brap 2y ago
  From a former obsessive media hoarder of over a decade, to my fellow media hoarders, my sincere advice: give up. Just stop. Delete it all and embrace streaming or ad hoc torrent if you need it. All of this hoarding is just not worth your time.
  • BLKNSLVR 2y ago
    It's not worth it obsessively, but casually or with-specific-purpose I believe it is worth the time and effort. It uses 'muscles' that I occasionally need, and would rather not let atrophy - primarily related to the enshittification of all things. In specific scenarios local copies are far more valuable than 'cloud' availability. Having said that, maybe we're quibbling over the definition of 'hoarding', which maybe (hah! definitely!) implies obsessive, and therefore implicitly unhealthy - in which case I agree.
  • genewitch 2y ago
    a decade? no offense, especially if you're a millennial - ten years isn't that long. I have hundreds of compact disks approaching three times that old. "ad hoc torrent" sounds great, but you're at the whims of seeds, and cease and desist letters. This also doesn't take into account monthly bandwidth "caps". There's somethings i have for background noise and visuals that i got on YT - what, i should stream it every time? even at 480p this will eat into monthly caps. What about things where i know i have one of the only full (as in needs no fills) copies of some media from the 1990s? Less than 5% of the stuff i keep is contemporaneous with the download date. If one is just downloading "current" things and then figuring out how to store more of it; then i 100% agree. That's a waste of space and time. Chances are you're paying for the right to stream it, and if you don't care about caps, burn the shareholder money for all i care by streaming it whenever you want to see it. Ideally at 4k. I'll keep downloading and storing stuff i find important - someday when/if youtube deletes some channels i have backed up, or a production company pulls all their content off of streaming platforms, or a different archive with convoluted steps to access content ceases to exist - i'll still have it, with subtitle files, searchable, locally. It happens a lot more often than you think.
    • dbtc 2y ago