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Can confirm FSD is a total fraud. I was only able to use it for 158 miles of my 160 mile journey yesterday. Absolute vaporware, totally.

moooo99 2y ago
Anecdotal evidence go brrrr. FSD may not be total trash, but it objectively isn’t what was promised it to be in 2020 (?)
- scarby2 2y ago
  At worst it's a partial fraud though.
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  - moooo99 2y ago
    I‘m not a lawyer, but if courts would deem this to be fraud, Tesla would have to take accountability towards their customers as well as their shareholders.
- dailykoder 2y ago
  Well, who would've thought that the real world is actually hard?
  - mikestew 2y ago
    Apparently not Tesla, but I’m not sure I get your point. Or maybe that was your point. :-)
travisgriggs 2y ago
I can’t tell which way the mocking/satire goes in your comment. Are you bragging that it did work for nearly 99% of your trip, and therefore the haters are out of sorts? Or Are you saying it worked great until it didn’t, and your car ended in some sort of wreck?
- iphoneisbetter 2y ago
  Yes. Kidding aside I am fairly satisfied with FSD. I don't expect it to perform miracles - but it does a pretty damn good job of rolling the car safely down the road when I don't want to do it.
- Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
  > Are you bragging that it did work for nearly 99% of your trip, and therefore the haters are out of sorts? As someone who has trialed FSD, I'd say the haters are out of sorts. There are situations it handles surprisingly well. I drove through some road construction and FSD gracefully handled following the traffic cones that guided cars outside the painted lines. I was able to have FSD drive me from right outside my house (It won't back out of the driveway yet) to a friend's house across town completely automated with zero intervention. 15 miles of both surface streets (Including neighborhood streets with no painted lines and curbs lined with cars) and busy highway. But there are still some bone-headed things it does. When one lane turns into two, it still sometimes gets confused and tries to drive in the middle and then suddenly decides to take a specific lane and swerves into it. It is overly cautious at stop signs and will easily piss off anybody behind you. I truly believe that Tesla will achieve actual FSD, but it just won't be on the timescale that Elon keeps saying. I also think that FSD will eventually be Level 5 capable, but they won't call it Level 5 and still expect drivers to pay attention so they can dodge legal liability.
qwerpy 2y ago
It's sad how politics can dominate even "smart" people to the point that they refuse to appreciate how magical it is that an off the shelf car can drive itself on the vast majority of roads.

moooo99 2y ago

Anecdotal evidence go brrrr. FSD may not be total trash, but it objectively isn’t what was promised it to be in 2020 (?)

scarby2 2y ago
At worst it's a partial fraud though.
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- moooo99 2y ago
  I‘m not a lawyer, but if courts would deem this to be fraud, Tesla would have to take accountability towards their customers as well as their shareholders.
dailykoder 2y ago
Well, who would've thought that the real world is actually hard?
- mikestew 2y ago
  Apparently not Tesla, but I’m not sure I get your point. Or maybe that was your point. :-)

travisgriggs 2y ago

I can’t tell which way the mocking/satire goes in your comment. Are you bragging that it did work for nearly 99% of your trip, and therefore the haters are out of sorts? Or Are you saying it worked great until it didn’t, and your car ended in some sort of wreck?

iphoneisbetter 2y ago
Yes. Kidding aside I am fairly satisfied with FSD. I don't expect it to perform miracles - but it does a pretty damn good job of rolling the car safely down the road when I don't want to do it.
Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
> Are you bragging that it did work for nearly 99% of your trip, and therefore the haters are out of sorts? As someone who has trialed FSD, I'd say the haters are out of sorts. There are situations it handles surprisingly well. I drove through some road construction and FSD gracefully handled following the traffic cones that guided cars outside the painted lines. I was able to have FSD drive me from right outside my house (It won't back out of the driveway yet) to a friend's house across town completely automated with zero intervention. 15 miles of both surface streets (Including neighborhood streets with no painted lines and curbs lined with cars) and busy highway. But there are still some bone-headed things it does. When one lane turns into two, it still sometimes gets confused and tries to drive in the middle and then suddenly decides to take a specific lane and swerves into it. It is overly cautious at stop signs and will easily piss off anybody behind you. I truly believe that Tesla will achieve actual FSD, but it just won't be on the timescale that Elon keeps saying. I also think that FSD will eventually be Level 5 capable, but they won't call it Level 5 and still expect drivers to pay attention so they can dodge legal liability.

qwerpy 2y ago

It's sad how politics can dominate even "smart" people to the point that they refuse to appreciate how magical it is that an off the shelf car can drive itself on the vast majority of roads.