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Sure, but you're drawing a distinction without a functional difference. The following can both be true: - Hungary's Putin-puppet regime is in favor of banning

Sure, but you're drawing a distinction without a functional difference. The following can both be true: - Hungary's Putin-puppet regime is in favor of banning encryption so as to repress the opposition and stay in power indefinitely. - Other EU political actors are in favor of banning encryption for their own reasons. My comment did not imply that all non-puppet political actors in the EU were against banning encryption.

rdm_blackhole 2y ago
> Hungary's is one of Putin's puppet regimes, so it's really about Russian-style repression of the opposition Your first comment was vague and that is why I thought it was worth responding to it. I am glad we agree that Hungary is not the only one who is pushing for this law but you singled out Hungary in your comment so what was the intent there then? To be honest, I am just a bit fed up with people talking about Hungary as the bad guy in this particular instance due to it's ties with Putin all the while forgetting that even the "nice" and "progressive" countries such as Sweden and France and many others which are usually clamoring for privacy and sovereignty from big tech are also pushing for it. To me in this specific case Hungary is not the problem. The problem is the law itself and the fact that this law keeps coming back again and again in the so called bastion of democracy that is Europe (supposedly).
123yawaworht456 2y ago
- Hungary's Putin-puppet regime is in favor of banning encryption to repress the opposition = bad - Other EU political actors are in favor of banning encryption to repress the opposition = good
aguaviva 2y ago
Hungary's Putin-puppet regime This may feel nifty to say and/or believe in, but has no connection to reality. Source: any Magyar you will talk to. Edit: For example [0], posted 5 minutes after I posted this. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41625251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41625251
- worstspotgain 2y ago
  Oh sure, friend. Not a puppet, not a puppet. He's stubborn for Russian fossil fuels, held up Sweden's entry into NATO, and curried a thousand other favors, but they were all just meetings of the minds. /s Same goes for Lukashenko, Maduro, and Vučić, or for Farage, Weidel, and all the other nice folk who used to poll sub-5% before Russia's troll army started peddling their sewage. The only thing less likely than you convincing me that he isn't would be me convincing you that he is, considering that you hopped onto this thread for this argument.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    You can believe in whatever caricatures you want. I see no need to convince you of anything.

rdm_blackhole 2y ago

> Hungary's is one of Putin's puppet regimes, so it's really about Russian-style repression of the opposition Your first comment was vague and that is why I thought it was worth responding to it. I am glad we agree that Hungary is not the only one who is pushing for this law but you singled out Hungary in your comment so what was the intent there then? To be honest, I am just a bit fed up with people talking about Hungary as the bad guy in this particular instance due to it's ties with Putin all the while forgetting that even the "nice" and "progressive" countries such as Sweden and France and many others which are usually clamoring for privacy and sovereignty from big tech are also pushing for it. To me in this specific case Hungary is not the problem. The problem is the law itself and the fact that this law keeps coming back again and again in the so called bastion of democracy that is Europe (supposedly).

123yawaworht456 2y ago

- Hungary's Putin-puppet regime is in favor of banning encryption to repress the opposition = bad - Other EU political actors are in favor of banning encryption to repress the opposition = good

aguaviva 2y ago

Hungary's Putin-puppet regime This may feel nifty to say and/or believe in, but has no connection to reality. Source: any Magyar you will talk to. Edit: For example [0], posted 5 minutes after I posted this. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41625251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41625251

worstspotgain 2y ago
Oh sure, friend. Not a puppet, not a puppet. He's stubborn for Russian fossil fuels, held up Sweden's entry into NATO, and curried a thousand other favors, but they were all just meetings of the minds. /s Same goes for Lukashenko, Maduro, and Vučić, or for Farage, Weidel, and all the other nice folk who used to poll sub-5% before Russia's troll army started peddling their sewage. The only thing less likely than you convincing me that he isn't would be me convincing you that he is, considering that you hopped onto this thread for this argument.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  You can believe in whatever caricatures you want. I see no need to convince you of anything.