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Looks like you still have to start by installing Android Studio, which seems excessive. Is there a way to just download an Android SDK? Looking briefly at the

Looks like you still have to start by installing Android Studio, which seems excessive. Is there a way to just download an Android SDK? Looking briefly at the makefile, I think they might have avoided Gradle, though it calls other tools written in Java. I'd love to see a way to build a Flutter app without Gradle.

MaXtreeM 2y ago
> curl -k "https://dl.google.com/android/repository/commandlinetools-linux-9123335_latest.zip https://dl.google.com/android/repository/commandlinetools-li..." -o commandlinetools-linux.zip unzip somewhere, set path variable > yes | sdkmanager --licenses && sdkmanager "platform-tools" && sdkmanager "ndk-bundle" && sdkmanager "build-tools;33.0.0" "platforms;android-33"
- slimsag 2y ago
  This is better indeed, but from recollection last time I tried this.. I think that still requires a full OpenJDK installation and I believe those `sdkmanager` commands install multiple GB of tools sadly.
  - MaXtreeM 2y ago
    Yes to both OpenJDK and large size.
flohofwoe 2y ago
It's possible to build without gradle by calling the sdk tools for bundling and signing directly (for instance from make or cmake), but Android Studio is at least useful for debugging the resulting apk (AS also works as "standalone debugger" for debugging an apk built elsewhere).
hyperbolablabla 2y ago
Not sure how useful this is but here's a gist that runs through the process without needing Android Studio: https://gist.github.com/jonnybrooks/13c6cbae832e7d1662e6c1431380d42d https://gist.github.com/jonnybrooks/13c6cbae832e7d1662e6c143...
Vt71fcAqt7 2y ago
>I'd love to see a way to build a Flutter app without Gradle. You generally don't need to touch gradle at all with flutter. Is your issue about having to install gradle onto your machine, even if you don't use it directly?
- skybrian 2y ago
  Yes, it’s mostly hidden, but it runs Gradle behind the scenes and that’s okay as long as nothing goes wrong. (I used to work on it, or at least tried to before giving up in frustration.)
  - Vt71fcAqt7 2y ago
    >I used to work on it, or at least tried to before giving up in frustration. Out of interest, what blockers did you encounter using Flutter? For me it was much better than native android in terms of development, but it could depend on the usecase.
zmodem 2y ago
> Is there a way to just download an Android SDK? Yes, you can just grab the zip files. For example like this: https://www.hanshq.net/command-line-android.html#sdk https://www.hanshq.net/command-line-android.html#sdk

MaXtreeM 2y ago

> curl -k "https://dl.google.com/android/repository/commandlinetools-linux-9123335_latest.zip https://dl.google.com/android/repository/commandlinetools-li..." -o commandlinetools-linux.zip unzip somewhere, set path variable > yes | sdkmanager --licenses && sdkmanager "platform-tools" && sdkmanager "ndk-bundle" && sdkmanager "build-tools;33.0.0" "platforms;android-33"

slimsag 2y ago
This is better indeed, but from recollection last time I tried this.. I think that still requires a full OpenJDK installation and I believe those `sdkmanager` commands install multiple GB of tools sadly.
- MaXtreeM 2y ago
  Yes to both OpenJDK and large size.

flohofwoe 2y ago

It's possible to build without gradle by calling the sdk tools for bundling and signing directly (for instance from make or cmake), but Android Studio is at least useful for debugging the resulting apk (AS also works as "standalone debugger" for debugging an apk built elsewhere).

hyperbolablabla 2y ago

Not sure how useful this is but here's a gist that runs through the process without needing Android Studio: https://gist.github.com/jonnybrooks/13c6cbae832e7d1662e6c1431380d42d https://gist.github.com/jonnybrooks/13c6cbae832e7d1662e6c143...

Vt71fcAqt7 2y ago

>I'd love to see a way to build a Flutter app without Gradle. You generally don't need to touch gradle at all with flutter. Is your issue about having to install gradle onto your machine, even if you don't use it directly?

skybrian 2y ago
Yes, it’s mostly hidden, but it runs Gradle behind the scenes and that’s okay as long as nothing goes wrong. (I used to work on it, or at least tried to before giving up in frustration.)
- Vt71fcAqt7 2y ago
  >I used to work on it, or at least tried to before giving up in frustration. Out of interest, what blockers did you encounter using Flutter? For me it was much better than native android in terms of development, but it could depend on the usecase.

zmodem 2y ago

> Is there a way to just download an Android SDK? Yes, you can just grab the zip files. For example like this: https://www.hanshq.net/command-line-android.html#sdk https://www.hanshq.net/command-line-android.html#sdk