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Yeah, we should make all achievements of the 20th century prohibitively expensive, that'll show them. The more mobile people will just move out somewhere reaso
by jojobas 2y ago
Yeah, we should make all achievements of the 20th century prohibitively expensive, that'll show them.
The more mobile people will just move out somewhere reasonable, the less mobile will suffer. But that's ok, for adversity brings out inner strength.
- chgs 2y agoIn the real world demand for housing in London is insatiable. The cheapest borough has an average cost of 10 times the average salary for a house, and it increases from there.
- Earw0rm 2y agoSo London house prices will crash because it's not affordable to live there? Sounds unlikely tbh, but might not be a bad thing if it did.
- leoedin 2y agoRoads with loads of cars are unpleasant. Yes, the car is a great achievement, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to have quiet streets too. Ultimately though the ULEZ isn’t even going to affect that. The percentage of cars affected is fairly small and shrinking each year.
- jojobas 2y agoULEZ is straight up "poor people go away". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_kilometre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_kilometre achieved with "environmental" means.
- chgs 2y agoExcept the cheapest cars you see on autotrader are ulez compliant, and the cost of the car is dwarfed by the cost of insurance.
- leoedin 2y agoIt really isn't. I've got a 13 year old Toyota which is ULEZ compliant. I bought it for £4k in 2020. My previous car - a now scrapped Fiat Panda from 2007, was also ULEZ compliant. I bought that for £900 back in 2015. Obviously car prices have been changed by covid - but there are loads of compliant cheap cars available. It's also only limiting driving within the city limits. You're free to drive anywhere else. Hardly totalitarian.
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y agoPoor people in London typically don't own any cars at all. London's ULEZ only has upsides for them.