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So let's get this straight. The guy got into a fight in a Macdonalds 19 years ago. Noone died. He has autism. He got an indefinite prison sentence, which was se

So let's get this straight. The guy got into a fight in a Macdonalds 19 years ago. Noone died. He has autism. He got an indefinite prison sentence, which was seen to be so unjust it got abolished. So he is still in jail indefinitely for his original crime. The crime you mention doesn't allow him to be kept in jail indefinitely, not for the original offense. I think it's pretty clearly manifestly unjust.

ActorNightly 2y ago
> Noone died. Sentences are based on intent, not outcomes. Fighting can result in life lasting injuries.
- chris_wot 2y ago
  Did it result in life lasting injuries?
tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
So let's get this straight. You see the post stating that he committed seven robberies and three assaults, i.e. was persistently victimizing people, and you choose to completely ignore that. He isn't in prison to punish him for one specific crime, he's in prison to keep him from victimizing people, because his history of crime makes it likely that he will keep doing that.
- chris_wot 2y ago
  That's not consistent with any form of Western justice. If he has a pyschological or psychiatric problem, then he needs to be cared for by the state. That is not the purpose of prisons.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
It’s not unjust. People with these records of several crimes almost always go on to victimize others. Why should law abiding society have to take on that risk?
- chris_wot 2y ago
  Because the basis of Western democractic justice systems are that we punish people for the crime they have committed, not the crimes we think they will commit. If we apply this standard for punishment, then anyone (including yourself) could be placed in jail. And then people like you could then say with conviction that you were likely to be a bad person and you deserved it.

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So let's get this straight. The guy got into a fight in a Macdonalds 19 years ago. Noone died. He has autism. He got an indefinite prison sentence, which was se

by chris_wot 2y ago

ActorNightly 2y ago
> Noone died. Sentences are based on intent, not outcomes. Fighting can result in life lasting injuries.
- chris_wot 2y ago
  Did it result in life lasting injuries?
tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
So let's get this straight. You see the post stating that he committed seven robberies and three assaults, i.e. was persistently victimizing people, and you choose to completely ignore that. He isn't in prison to punish him for one specific crime, he's in prison to keep him from victimizing people, because his history of crime makes it likely that he will keep doing that.
- chris_wot 2y ago
  That's not consistent with any form of Western justice. If he has a pyschological or psychiatric problem, then he needs to be cared for by the state. That is not the purpose of prisons.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
It’s not unjust. People with these records of several crimes almost always go on to victimize others. Why should law abiding society have to take on that risk?
- chris_wot 2y ago
  Because the basis of Western democractic justice systems are that we punish people for the crime they have committed, not the crimes we think they will commit. If we apply this standard for punishment, then anyone (including yourself) could be placed in jail. And then people like you could then say with conviction that you were likely to be a bad person and you deserved it.