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> The PSF had $4,356,000 revenue In some ways, this makes me even more impressed with Zig. And possibly a signal other believe Zig will have an outsized impact

> The PSF had $4,356,000 revenue In some ways, this makes me even more impressed with Zig. And possibly a signal other believe Zig will have an outsized impact. Zig foundation raised ~$500k last year, which is 1/9th PSF. Yet if I had to guess Zig is way smaller than 1/9th the ecosystem Python is today. https://ziglang.org/news/2024-financials/ https://ziglang.org/news/2024-financials/

lifthrasiir 2y ago
While Zig foundation is impressive, a large portion of their income comes from Uber for the Zig toolchain for C/C++, not Zig the language proper. This shows both a good strategy picked by the foundation and the difficulty of funding based on the language proper.
- kristoff_it 2y ago
  > a large portion of their income comes from Uber for the Zig toolchain Nah, that was a sizeable chunk of money (200k) that we received last year, but it was meant to last 2 years and we don't know if it will be renewed or not (Zig seems to be working well enough, "unfortunately"). We're getting more constant financial support from startups who have adopted Zig (Bun, TigerBeetle, ZML, to name the main ones) alongside some extremely generous private sponsors. We're not rushing commercial adoption of Zig because we want to take our time to grow the project as we see fit. Open the changelog of every Zig release and you will see at the very top that we don't recommend usage in production yet (unless you really know what you're doing). Corporate sponsors from wider adoption will come at the right time.
  - lifthrasiir 2y ago
    Ah, that's a good news to hear. I felt that Zig is already quite useful at least for some uses and meant to say that merit alone doesn't imply a financial success (whatever it means), it'd be another story if the financial success is not yet aimed.

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> The PSF had $4,356,000 revenue In some ways, this makes me even more impressed with Zig. And possibly a signal other believe Zig will have an outsized impact

by tiffanyh 2y ago

lifthrasiir 2y ago
While Zig foundation is impressive, a large portion of their income comes from Uber for the Zig toolchain for C/C++, not Zig the language proper. This shows both a good strategy picked by the foundation and the difficulty of funding based on the language proper.
- kristoff_it 2y ago
  > a large portion of their income comes from Uber for the Zig toolchain Nah, that was a sizeable chunk of money (200k) that we received last year, but it was meant to last 2 years and we don't know if it will be renewed or not (Zig seems to be working well enough, "unfortunately"). We're getting more constant financial support from startups who have adopted Zig (Bun, TigerBeetle, ZML, to name the main ones) alongside some extremely generous private sponsors. We're not rushing commercial adoption of Zig because we want to take our time to grow the project as we see fit. Open the changelog of every Zig release and you will see at the very top that we don't recommend usage in production yet (unless you really know what you're doing). Corporate sponsors from wider adoption will come at the right time.
  - lifthrasiir 2y ago
    Ah, that's a good news to hear. I felt that Zig is already quite useful at least for some uses and meant to say that merit alone doesn't imply a financial success (whatever it means), it'd be another story if the financial success is not yet aimed.