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All of the products you are using today were likely created before ChatGPT was released. For those products, you are not going to see any visible improvements b

All of the products you are using today were likely created before ChatGPT was released. For those products, you are not going to see any visible improvements because many of them will suffer from poor implementation due to lack of adequate knowledge of code/frameworks. Most software best practices are learned after the software is created and release. The code is probably very spaghetti and hard to maintain. Refactoring is still hard for AI, but writing from scratch is much easier with AI. For the software that is currently out, bugs will be fixed faster, and features might be added sooner. The real explosion of great software will happen in 3-5 years. AI is huge for the beginning of projects. You know _what_ you want the app to do but you don't know _how_. That's where AI adds huge value. People are now starting new projects with AI help, and they are building foundations of codebases that will be much more maintainable and sustainable as development continues compared to the current suite of software products we interact with today.

jsheard 2y ago
> You know _what_ you want the app to do but you don't know _how_. That's where AI adds huge value. People are now starting new projects with AI help, and they are building foundations of codebases that will be much more maintainable and sustainable I'm not following. How are these codebases going to be more maintainable and sustainable if the developers are committing code they don't even understand?
- sdenton4 2y ago
  I think you misinterpret the 'don't know how' part. LLM's are fantastic for boilerplate (which is a big part of getting things started). From there, I might not know the right incantation for (say) handling a button click, but it's not too hard to validate that an LLM-generated handler a) works, b) looks sensible, and c) fits reasonably in the codebase. In fact, most of my use of LLMs for coding is about generating snippets of functionality, which go into a codebase that I'm maintaining the shape of... which helps maintainability. You can also generate tests more efficiently, meaning you can get better test coverage cheaper. This leads to better maintainability as well, as you know more quickly when you've broken things with a change.
  - animal_spirits 2y ago
    Yeah precisely. In my case I’ve been building a Django rest app over the last few years. I started off writing way too much of my own code rather than using plugins I had no idea existed. After finally getting ahold of ChatGPT I was able to expand my knowledge of Django tenfold, and was able to rewrite the app from the ground up using proven libraries and design decisions.
    - skydhash 2y ago
      Or you could have gone to https://github.com/shahraizali/awesome-django https://github.com/shahraizali/awesome-django
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jsheard 2y ago

> You know _what_ you want the app to do but you don't know _how_. That's where AI adds huge value. People are now starting new projects with AI help, and they are building foundations of codebases that will be much more maintainable and sustainable I'm not following. How are these codebases going to be more maintainable and sustainable if the developers are committing code they don't even understand?

sdenton4 2y ago
I think you misinterpret the 'don't know how' part. LLM's are fantastic for boilerplate (which is a big part of getting things started). From there, I might not know the right incantation for (say) handling a button click, but it's not too hard to validate that an LLM-generated handler a) works, b) looks sensible, and c) fits reasonably in the codebase. In fact, most of my use of LLMs for coding is about generating snippets of functionality, which go into a codebase that I'm maintaining the shape of... which helps maintainability. You can also generate tests more efficiently, meaning you can get better test coverage cheaper. This leads to better maintainability as well, as you know more quickly when you've broken things with a change.
- animal_spirits 2y ago
  Yeah precisely. In my case I’ve been building a Django rest app over the last few years. I started off writing way too much of my own code rather than using plugins I had no idea existed. After finally getting ahold of ChatGPT I was able to expand my knowledge of Django tenfold, and was able to rewrite the app from the ground up using proven libraries and design decisions.
  - skydhash 2y ago
    Or you could have gone to https://github.com/shahraizali/awesome-django https://github.com/shahraizali/awesome-django

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