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These ideas are simply inappropriate for a church, a sacred space. The fact that such ideas are seriously considered is also why we can't rebuild the roof in a

These ideas are simply inappropriate for a church, a sacred space. The fact that such ideas are seriously considered is also why we can't rebuild the roof in a different way today anymore. In the past, when people rebuilt the roof, there was some consensus on what a church should look like, today people have to rally around rebuilding it exactly, or have it become a playground for bored starchitects. The glass pyramid in front of the Louvres and the Eiffel Tower are separate buildings. A better example would be the Bundestag, but that's a secular building and the glass dome here is a message of renewal and transparency.

falcor84 2y ago
> These ideas are simply inappropriate for a church, a sacred space. Why? On a conceptual level, wouldn't a glass roof allow the people to feel closer to the heavens, while still enclosed by the holiness of the cathedral?
- amadeuspagel 2y ago
  You can have the feeling of being in some sense enclosed and seeing the sky in any stadium.
  - falcor84 2y ago
    Some people would argue that a stadium is a place of worship
AlotOfReading 2y ago
Why shouldn't churches reflect evolving ideas of how "sacred" looks? The Sagrada Familia doesn't feel the same as the old Notre Dame or Milan, but it's no less sacred for it. The Crystal cathedral and Thorncrown Chapel don't reflect traditional ideas about what a sacred space should look like either, but it's hard to deny that they reflect something sacral even if you don't like them.
- amadeuspagel 2y ago
  The Sagrada Famila doesn't feel the same as the old Notre Dame, but it does enclose space, it does feel different from the outside.
  - AlotOfReading 2y ago
    None of the glass roof proposals I've seen for the Notre Dame included removing the walls that enclose the space. If we're talking about something completely different, can you link it so we can be on the same page?
    - amadeuspagel 2y ago
      I'm aware that it's just about the roof, I guess we mean different things by enclose.

falcor84 2y ago

> These ideas are simply inappropriate for a church, a sacred space. Why? On a conceptual level, wouldn't a glass roof allow the people to feel closer to the heavens, while still enclosed by the holiness of the cathedral?

amadeuspagel 2y ago
You can have the feeling of being in some sense enclosed and seeing the sky in any stadium.
- falcor84 2y ago
  Some people would argue that a stadium is a place of worship

AlotOfReading 2y ago

Why shouldn't churches reflect evolving ideas of how "sacred" looks? The Sagrada Familia doesn't feel the same as the old Notre Dame or Milan, but it's no less sacred for it. The Crystal cathedral and Thorncrown Chapel don't reflect traditional ideas about what a sacred space should look like either, but it's hard to deny that they reflect something sacral even if you don't like them.

amadeuspagel 2y ago
The Sagrada Famila doesn't feel the same as the old Notre Dame, but it does enclose space, it does feel different from the outside.
- AlotOfReading 2y ago
  None of the glass roof proposals I've seen for the Notre Dame included removing the walls that enclose the space. If we're talking about something completely different, can you link it so we can be on the same page?
  - amadeuspagel 2y ago
    I'm aware that it's just about the roof, I guess we mean different things by enclose.