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Man, American healthcare sucks. Who came up with this "network" idea? I hope they are burning in hell. Here in Germany I can just go to any doctor/care provid

by copx 2y ago

Man, American healthcare sucks. Who came up with this "network" idea? I hope they are burning in hell. Here in Germany I can just go to any doctor/care provider. The insurance companies don't have networks I need to worry about. I have always considered that normal, and think the American system is horrible and perverse.

pas 2y ago
How do you know if someone is a care provider or they just say so? ... and that's the problem with the patchwork of states, certification boards, semi-regulated honor systems interconnected with a fuckton of money. And instead of sufficiently driving out scams[1] from the whole country (or at least from states) there are these mythical "allowlists". [1] but then muh freedom! and MLMs and religious crazies and spiritual-woo-whatever crazies masquerading as religious crazies, and ...
- copx 2y ago
  >How do you know if someone is a care provider or they just say so? We have central authorities for that and as a patient I don't have to worry about it. In the case of public insurance (which over 80% of Germans use) the care provider bills the insurance company, not you. And people can't just pretend to be medical professionals because the insurance company can easily check if you actually have a valid license to practice medicine in Germany. Again there are central authorities for that which maintain registries.
zajio1am 2y ago
Really? Here in Czechia, we have similar public healthcare system based on public health insurance providers, and there is still a concept of non-contract doctor/care provider. It is unusual, as most care providers have contracts with most insurance providers, but it exists.
MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
You Germans really have it figured out. Social market economy is a great and well proven system. It's a pity that my fellow Americans conflate it with socialism, which is one of the few things that would be worse than what we have now.

by copx 2y ago

pas 2y ago

How do you know if someone is a care provider or they just say so? ... and that's the problem with the patchwork of states, certification boards, semi-regulated honor systems interconnected with a fuckton of money. And instead of sufficiently driving out scams[1] from the whole country (or at least from states) there are these mythical "allowlists". [1] but then muh freedom! and MLMs and religious crazies and spiritual-woo-whatever crazies masquerading as religious crazies, and ...

copx 2y ago
>How do you know if someone is a care provider or they just say so? We have central authorities for that and as a patient I don't have to worry about it. In the case of public insurance (which over 80% of Germans use) the care provider bills the insurance company, not you. And people can't just pretend to be medical professionals because the insurance company can easily check if you actually have a valid license to practice medicine in Germany. Again there are central authorities for that which maintain registries.

zajio1am 2y ago

Really? Here in Czechia, we have similar public healthcare system based on public health insurance providers, and there is still a concept of non-contract doctor/care provider. It is unusual, as most care providers have contracts with most insurance providers, but it exists.

MrDrMcCoy 2y ago

You Germans really have it figured out. Social market economy is a great and well proven system. It's a pity that my fellow Americans conflate it with socialism, which is one of the few things that would be worse than what we have now.