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It’s crazy that you put up with it. Me, in Europe - I need healthcare, I go wherever I want, public or private. Public is free and good, but usually you have t

It’s crazy that you put up with it. Me, in Europe - I need healthcare, I go wherever I want, public or private. Public is free and good, but usually you have to wait a few weeks or months for non-critical care, and private can usually see you tomorrow. My insurance will cover it, no question - everyone is in network with everyone, and I’ve yet to find an exception. I pay €600 a year, and it covers all the root canals and colonoscopies I can handle. No copay. No excess, except on dentistry, which is like €25.

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- dutchy57 2y ago
  In my case: The Netherlands (lived there > 10 years as adult). I've also lived in Germany for 5 years, and it was only slightly worse than NL. But nothing compared to the horror stories I hear from US colleagues.
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    I live in Germany. 800€/month for public insurance, some dentistry services are included - a lot aren't. Lots of doctors only service patients with private insurance, so I sometimes just have to pay it out of pocket. Specialty Care like skin is usually massively overbooked that you can't even get any appointment, as they don't accept any more patients. Your experience in Germany is likely >10yrs ago before the system was sabotaged for private profits by our current health minister
    - xtracto 2y ago
      Interesting, I lived 4 years in Germany (Sachsen Anhalt). I had to use an ambulance for emergency (syncope , hit my head , lots of blood , middle of the night). I also had colonoscopies, MRI, and several visits.to gastroenteroloist, and one proctologist (yikes!). I the 4 years I was there. I just remember getting some receipt for a very low sum from my insurance (Big Gesundheit) which was negligible (I think about 300 Eur) . All then other stuff was economically inconsequential. And I was on a Research Assistant salary. It was amazing. It was not better than NHS (lived in the UK for some time as well) , but it was pretty good.
      - ffsm8 2y ago
        The emergency services are still mostly fine (albeit insanely overworked to maximize hospital owner profits) and you won't get an ruinous invoice like in the US, that's still correct.
      - m_fayer 2y ago
        Berlin here, I’m both in medtech and the occasional consumer of medicine. It’s been a nosedive since covid. No availability, no time, providers rushing you through the playbook. I will rely on my 600/mo insurance for minor injuries and major health crises, everything in between is out of pocket, the alternative is not worth the high blood pressure.
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Where?

dutchy57 2y ago
In my case: The Netherlands (lived there > 10 years as adult). I've also lived in Germany for 5 years, and it was only slightly worse than NL. But nothing compared to the horror stories I hear from US colleagues.
- ffsm8 2y ago
  I live in Germany. 800€/month for public insurance, some dentistry services are included - a lot aren't. Lots of doctors only service patients with private insurance, so I sometimes just have to pay it out of pocket. Specialty Care like skin is usually massively overbooked that you can't even get any appointment, as they don't accept any more patients. Your experience in Germany is likely >10yrs ago before the system was sabotaged for private profits by our current health minister
  - xtracto 2y ago
    Interesting, I lived 4 years in Germany (Sachsen Anhalt). I had to use an ambulance for emergency (syncope , hit my head , lots of blood , middle of the night). I also had colonoscopies, MRI, and several visits.to gastroenteroloist, and one proctologist (yikes!). I the 4 years I was there. I just remember getting some receipt for a very low sum from my insurance (Big Gesundheit) which was negligible (I think about 300 Eur) . All then other stuff was economically inconsequential. And I was on a Research Assistant salary. It was amazing. It was not better than NHS (lived in the UK for some time as well) , but it was pretty good.
    - ffsm8 2y ago
      The emergency services are still mostly fine (albeit insanely overworked to maximize hospital owner profits) and you won't get an ruinous invoice like in the US, that's still correct.
    - m_fayer 2y ago
      Berlin here, I’m both in medtech and the occasional consumer of medicine. It’s been a nosedive since covid. No availability, no time, providers rushing you through the playbook. I will rely on my 600/mo insurance for minor injuries and major health crises, everything in between is out of pocket, the alternative is not worth the high blood pressure.

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