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Damn that free speech. It only causes problems. Better ban it altogether, then everything will be alright!
by cynicalsecurity 2y ago
Damn that free speech. It only causes problems. Better ban it altogether, then everything will be alright!
- llamaimperative 2y agoDid you read the article?
- cynicalsecurity 2y agoDid you? Punishing people for expressing themselves is Soviet, it's not Western.
- aguaviva 2y agoOh punishing people for expressing themselves is very Western. That's how we got the Inquisition, the witch trials, the Red Scare / McCarthyism, cancel culture and so on. It's just morphed into generally non-violent forms over the years (which we can't argue aren't something of an improvement), rather than the classic bullet to the back of the neck technique preferred by the Soviet model.
- llamaimperative 2y ago“Punishing people” by calling them idiots, ignoring them, making fun of them, removing commercial opportunities from their grasp, and so on is exactly the marketplace of ideas in action. Punishing people by exercising the power of the state — which is not what’s happening here — is the non-western thing.
- whythre 2y agoPunishing them via the state is the next step. Imagine taking food from someone’s mouth because you disagree with them on a public issue. Whatever happened to ‘I disagree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.’
- llamaimperative 2y agoWhat exactly are you advocating for here? Is it that people are obligated to just be nice to you regardless of what you say? Are you going to obligate people to engage in business transactions with you? This dynamic has never existed in any free society, obviously. Making fun of you, calling you names, and declining to associate with you is the marketplace of ideas. That's how ideas compete.