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Agree. However the core problem with most SAAS products is: the companies are beeing greedy and the products fail to deliver enough value or keeep missing a cer

Agree. However the core problem with most SAAS products is: the companies are beeing greedy and the products fail to deliver enough value or keeep missing a certain quality bar to make you happy. You could easily fix that by a base price and a maintenence fee (per year, since first buy) which would make it easy to opt in/out of a subscription model. The fact that companies are beeing greedy and fail to deliver prevents this from happening.

9dev 2y ago
Speaking as a SaaS company here: I get what you’re saying, but this isn’t really fair. We have ongoing development so sustain, financial planning to do, and investors down our necks. It’s hard to justify a business plan with lots of fluctuations and uncertainty, when we could also have a SaaS model instead.
- HellDunkel 2y ago
  I was referring to companies such as Adobe and Autodesk and i don't mind SAAS at all if the value is provided and a choise is offered. Guesss its hard balancing the investors vs the intereste of your clients.
  - musicale 2y ago
    > Guess it's hard balancing the investors vs the interests of your clients I think we know how that ends.
- musicale 2y ago
  "We need predictable income so you should buy a subscription to our product" seems to be the argument that businesses love.
WildGreenLeave 2y ago
Jetbrains is the perfect example of a subscription based platform that I will happily pay for without any bad feelings. I pay yearly, after a few years you do get a discount (so I am a happy camper). And if at any point I decide I don't want to pay it anymore, I keep access to the latest version of the software I paid for.
- BXlnt2EachOther 2y ago
  Yes, the multi-year discount and perpetual license are nice -- though the version is the one from the start of the year but that's certainly better than a lot of peers. I was impressed that when Jetbrains raised prices, it seemed a reasonable amount, they gave a few months' notice, and allowed people to prepurchase three years in advance at the old rates. I'm hoping IDEA and the all products pack continue to survive basically as-is. Jetbrains looks to have launched a couple overlapping enterprise SaaS products, the AI integration, and increasingly specialized individual IDEs.

9dev 2y ago

Speaking as a SaaS company here: I get what you’re saying, but this isn’t really fair. We have ongoing development so sustain, financial planning to do, and investors down our necks. It’s hard to justify a business plan with lots of fluctuations and uncertainty, when we could also have a SaaS model instead.

HellDunkel 2y ago
I was referring to companies such as Adobe and Autodesk and i don't mind SAAS at all if the value is provided and a choise is offered. Guesss its hard balancing the investors vs the intereste of your clients.
- musicale 2y ago
  > Guess it's hard balancing the investors vs the interests of your clients I think we know how that ends.
musicale 2y ago
"We need predictable income so you should buy a subscription to our product" seems to be the argument that businesses love.

WildGreenLeave 2y ago

Jetbrains is the perfect example of a subscription based platform that I will happily pay for without any bad feelings. I pay yearly, after a few years you do get a discount (so I am a happy camper). And if at any point I decide I don't want to pay it anymore, I keep access to the latest version of the software I paid for.

BXlnt2EachOther 2y ago
Yes, the multi-year discount and perpetual license are nice -- though the version is the one from the start of the year but that's certainly better than a lot of peers. I was impressed that when Jetbrains raised prices, it seemed a reasonable amount, they gave a few months' notice, and allowed people to prepurchase three years in advance at the old rates. I'm hoping IDEA and the all products pack continue to survive basically as-is. Jetbrains looks to have launched a couple overlapping enterprise SaaS products, the AI integration, and increasingly specialized individual IDEs.