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> Theft is undefined for objects with .copy() interface. > Computers replaced computers, now voice acting replaces voice actors. It's incredible what web deve

> Theft is undefined for objects with .copy() interface. > Computers replaced computers, now voice acting replaces voice actors. It's incredible what web development does to someone's ability to communicate ideas.

ninalanyon 2y ago
The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Looks perfectly clear to me.
- anal_reactor 2y ago
  I have a very funny example of how using outdated words might lead to miscommunication, but unfortunately that particular one could get me banned, so let's just say that I'm a huge fan of picking a version of langauge from one specific time period and sticking to it, instead of having the reader do all the guesswork.
  - rustcleaner 2y ago
    Nothing feels quite like running gay and free with creative language! :^)
- yallpendantools 2y ago
  > The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Was that ever so? According to Google Ngrams, "computer" was not really a term until, predictably, around 1950, even though the verb "compute" has been in use throughout history (it comes from the Latin "computare", apparently). That tells me "computer" was never a person, always a machine. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=compute%2Ccomputer&year_start=1500&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=compute%2Ccomp...
  - frisia 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)?useskin=vector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)?useskin=...
  - femto 2y ago
    Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) The first reference in the Wikipedia article is to the original definition in the Oxford English Dictionary. Dating from 1613, it refers to a person.
  - nkrisc 2y ago
    The first “computers” were people, who computed. And the term was used to mean as much until very recently. > From 1953 to 1958, Johnson worked as a computer,[23] analyzing topics such as gust alleviation for aircraft. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson
wruza 2y ago
Or understand ideas. We all web develop sometimes and as the follow up shows, it’s actually your share of web developness in action ;) On a serious note, please refrain from using “webdev makes dumb” theme here. It’s a beaten cliche that does nothing good to any forum. Have a nice day!
- the_gorilla 2y ago
  No, I don't think I'll be telling nice sounding lies about web development.

ninalanyon 2y ago

The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Looks perfectly clear to me.

anal_reactor 2y ago
I have a very funny example of how using outdated words might lead to miscommunication, but unfortunately that particular one could get me banned, so let's just say that I'm a huge fan of picking a version of langauge from one specific time period and sticking to it, instead of having the reader do all the guesswork.
- rustcleaner 2y ago
  Nothing feels quite like running gay and free with creative language! :^)
yallpendantools 2y ago
> The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Was that ever so? According to Google Ngrams, "computer" was not really a term until, predictably, around 1950, even though the verb "compute" has been in use throughout history (it comes from the Latin "computare", apparently). That tells me "computer" was never a person, always a machine. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=compute%2Ccomputer&year_start=1500&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=compute%2Ccomp...
- frisia 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)?useskin=vector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)?useskin=...
- femto 2y ago
  Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) The first reference in the Wikipedia article is to the original definition in the Oxford English Dictionary. Dating from 1613, it refers to a person.
- nkrisc 2y ago
  The first “computers” were people, who computed. And the term was used to mean as much until very recently. > From 1953 to 1958, Johnson worked as a computer,[23] analyzing topics such as gust alleviation for aircraft. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Johnson

wruza 2y ago

Or understand ideas. We all web develop sometimes and as the follow up shows, it’s actually your share of web developness in action ;) On a serious note, please refrain from using “webdev makes dumb” theme here. It’s a beaten cliche that does nothing good to any forum. Have a nice day!

the_gorilla 2y ago
No, I don't think I'll be telling nice sounding lies about web development.