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Hey, at least here cloudflare isn't inserting captchas into json (turns out Roundcube webmail breaks horribly when someone does that!)

by mkj 2y ago

louthy 2y ago
Cloudflare and its captchas are the scourge of the modern internet. Especially if you run a VPN on your router. The amount of times I’ve been in seemingly endless click-the traffic-light loops is just ridiculous. Many of the times I’ll just refuse to use the site, but some things I need to endure. They clearly have no incentive to be better either. The pain falls entirely on the visitor. If you can’t tell I’m human then you’re doing it wrong.
- Pikamander2 2y ago
  > If you can’t tell I’m human then you’re doing it wrong. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if multiple multi-billion dollar companies struggle with it, then it's less of a solved problem than you're implying. > Especially if you run a VPN on your router. Very few people do this, and almost all of them are also using ad blockers. If using Cloudflare protects a site from thousands of bot attacks while inconviencing a few real users with esoteric setups, that tradeoff is well worth it for most site owners. I've set up Cloudflare on hundreds of websites and when you look at the amount of nasty stuff it blocks, it quickly becomes clear why it's needed. If you want to blame someone, blame the Russian and Chinese governments (among others) for doing little to nothing about their unfathomably massive botnets.
- hombre_fatal 2y ago
  Most abuse on the internet comes over VPNs, so why is it surprising when website operators make you jump through hoops if you choose to blend in with low quality VPN traffic? Also, why would it be easy to tell that your request is from one of the good guys?
  - deleted 2y ago
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- dongcarl 2y ago
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CodesInChaos 2y ago
Cloudflare definitely used to replace JavaScript by an HTML Captcha page, which obviously went well. But it's been a while since that last happened to me.

Hey, at least here cloudflare isn't inserting captchas into json (turns out Roundcube webmail breaks horribly when someone does that!)

by mkj 2y ago

Hey, at least here cloudflare isn't inserting captchas into json (turns out Roundcube webmail breaks horribly when someone does that!)

louthy 2y ago

Cloudflare and its captchas are the scourge of the modern internet. Especially if you run a VPN on your router. The amount of times I’ve been in seemingly endless click-the traffic-light loops is just ridiculous. Many of the times I’ll just refuse to use the site, but some things I need to endure. They clearly have no incentive to be better either. The pain falls entirely on the visitor. If you can’t tell I’m human then you’re doing it wrong.

Pikamander2 2y ago
> If you can’t tell I’m human then you’re doing it wrong. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if multiple multi-billion dollar companies struggle with it, then it's less of a solved problem than you're implying. > Especially if you run a VPN on your router. Very few people do this, and almost all of them are also using ad blockers. If using Cloudflare protects a site from thousands of bot attacks while inconviencing a few real users with esoteric setups, that tradeoff is well worth it for most site owners. I've set up Cloudflare on hundreds of websites and when you look at the amount of nasty stuff it blocks, it quickly becomes clear why it's needed. If you want to blame someone, blame the Russian and Chinese governments (among others) for doing little to nothing about their unfathomably massive botnets.
hombre_fatal 2y ago
Most abuse on the internet comes over VPNs, so why is it surprising when website operators make you jump through hoops if you choose to blend in with low quality VPN traffic? Also, why would it be easy to tell that your request is from one of the good guys?
- deleted 2y ago
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dongcarl 2y ago
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CodesInChaos 2y ago

Cloudflare definitely used to replace JavaScript by an HTML Captcha page, which obviously went well. But it's been a while since that last happened to me.