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Huh? Since when do drug dealers get ‘prosecuted for the deaths’ of folks who OD on their products, assuming it was unintentional? Prosecuted for selling illega

by lazide 2y ago

Huh? Since when do drug dealers get ‘prosecuted for the deaths’ of folks who OD on their products, assuming it was unintentional? Prosecuted for selling illegal substances yeah. But that’s different.

yndoendo 2y ago
Here are a few examples. Note that the Slacker family are not low level, they are the top echelon of the OxyContin pushers. [1] [2] [3] [1] https://www.npr.org/2017/06/17/533327584/the-controversy-over-charging-drug-dealers-with-murder-after-overdoses https://www.npr.org/2017/06/17/533327584/the-controversy-ove... [2] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fentanyl-deaths-homicde-chargers-for-dealers/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fentanyl-deaths-homicde-charger... [3] https://theappeal.org/the-lab/explainers/charging-dealers-with-homicide-explained/ https://theappeal.org/the-lab/explainers/charging-dealers-wi...
- jart 2y ago
  Wonderful. I can't see how a society that stops believing in individual responsibility is going to keep believing in individual autonomy too. We've been seeing the same cultural shift in technology. SB1047 in California seeks to hold developers liable when other people misuse their AI models. There's also people who want to hold normal developers liable when people get hacked due to bugs in their code. If writing code and sharing it is a form of expression, that means no more freedom of expression. People are even being held liable for expression of beliefs too. It's a slippery slope that leads to not being allowed to do anything the state doesn't tell you to do.
  - lazide 2y ago
    That’s California in a nut shell. Be as weird and unique as you want, as long as it’s an ‘ok’ kind of weird and unique and you’ve filled out the right forms and gotten the correct insurance first. Or if you’re homeless, do whatever.
loeg 2y ago
I agree it's pretty bogus but it does seem to happen in some jurisdictions. A recent example is Matthew Perry's ketamine dealer.

by lazide 2y ago

yndoendo 2y ago

Here are a few examples. Note that the Slacker family are not low level, they are the top echelon of the OxyContin pushers. [1] [2] [3] [1] https://www.npr.org/2017/06/17/533327584/the-controversy-over-charging-drug-dealers-with-murder-after-overdoses https://www.npr.org/2017/06/17/533327584/the-controversy-ove... [2] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fentanyl-deaths-homicde-chargers-for-dealers/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fentanyl-deaths-homicde-charger... [3] https://theappeal.org/the-lab/explainers/charging-dealers-with-homicide-explained/ https://theappeal.org/the-lab/explainers/charging-dealers-wi...

jart 2y ago
Wonderful. I can't see how a society that stops believing in individual responsibility is going to keep believing in individual autonomy too. We've been seeing the same cultural shift in technology. SB1047 in California seeks to hold developers liable when other people misuse their AI models. There's also people who want to hold normal developers liable when people get hacked due to bugs in their code. If writing code and sharing it is a form of expression, that means no more freedom of expression. People are even being held liable for expression of beliefs too. It's a slippery slope that leads to not being allowed to do anything the state doesn't tell you to do.
- lazide 2y ago
  That’s California in a nut shell. Be as weird and unique as you want, as long as it’s an ‘ok’ kind of weird and unique and you’ve filled out the right forms and gotten the correct insurance first. Or if you’re homeless, do whatever.

loeg 2y ago

I agree it's pretty bogus but it does seem to happen in some jurisdictions. A recent example is Matthew Perry's ketamine dealer.