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100% just look at Lula's acceptance of the Venezuelan elections, is Brazil doing anything to clamp down on far left support for Venezuela?

by _3u10 2y ago

miltava 2y ago
Could you share references for this claim? As far as I could find, Brazil haven’t recognized the results of the elections. [1] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internacional/brasil-mantem-posicao-e-nao-vai-reconhecer-suposta-vitoria-de-maduro-sem-atas-eleitorais/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internaci... [2] https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/jornal-nacional/noticia/2024/08/15/lula-diz-pela-primeira-vez-que-nao-reconhece-a-vitoria-de-nicolas-maduro-na-venezuela.ghtml https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/jornal-nacional/noticia/2024... [3] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internacional/brasil-e-colombia-nao-reconhecem-vitoria-de-maduro-e-cobram-divulgacao-de-atas/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internaci...
- _3u10 2y ago
  Lula recognized the equally bs 2018 elections, it’s not like Maduro won that election either. https://elpais.com/america/2024-03-02/nicolas-maduro-asegura-ante-lula-que-en-el-segundo-semestre-habra-elecciones-en-venezuela.html https://elpais.com/america/2024-03-02/nicolas-maduro-asegura...
- matheusmoreira 2y ago
  Lula rolled out the red carpet for the venezuelan dictator months into his mandate, welcomed him onto our soil with full military honors. Everybody knows he's a friend of Maduro and many other communist dictators. Despite this, the judge involved in the Twitter case used to censor any speech associating him with dictators as "fake news". If he hasn't recognized the results by now, it's because the situation there must be so bad the political repercussions of doing so will be too great even for him. Notably, he hasn't condemned his dictator buddy either. He's not saying much of anything and letting it play out. His silence on the matter also speaks volumes.
luizfzs 2y ago
"is Brazil doing anything to clamp down on far left support for Venezuela?" They don't get to do anything. As much as one may dislike another country's political system, all they get to do is carry on with life. No country has the right to meddle with another's politics. No foreign person has to right meddle with another's politics. That's the imperialist view of the world. That's not how it should be.
- _3u10 2y ago
  https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Vel%C3%A1zquez https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Vel%C3%A1zquez NATO members regularly interfere in other countries elections, and have a long history of doing so especially in South America. It’s widely accepted as an international norm, dating back to at least to the agreement of the Monroe doctrine with the UK, and continuing to at least 2022 with respect to Paraguay.
  - luizfzs 2y ago
    The fact they do doesn't give any legitimacy to their actions. South America is not the NATO's (or anyone's) political experiment playground.

100% just look at Lula's acceptance of the Venezuelan elections, is Brazil doing anything to clamp down on far left support for Venezuela?

by _3u10 2y ago

100% just look at Lula's acceptance of the Venezuelan elections, is Brazil doing anything to clamp down on far left support for Venezuela?

miltava 2y ago

Could you share references for this claim? As far as I could find, Brazil haven’t recognized the results of the elections. [1] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internacional/brasil-mantem-posicao-e-nao-vai-reconhecer-suposta-vitoria-de-maduro-sem-atas-eleitorais/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internaci... [2] https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/jornal-nacional/noticia/2024/08/15/lula-diz-pela-primeira-vez-que-nao-reconhece-a-vitoria-de-nicolas-maduro-na-venezuela.ghtml https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/jornal-nacional/noticia/2024... [3] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internacional/brasil-e-colombia-nao-reconhecem-vitoria-de-maduro-e-cobram-divulgacao-de-atas/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/americo-martins/internaci...

_3u10 2y ago
Lula recognized the equally bs 2018 elections, it’s not like Maduro won that election either. https://elpais.com/america/2024-03-02/nicolas-maduro-asegura-ante-lula-que-en-el-segundo-semestre-habra-elecciones-en-venezuela.html https://elpais.com/america/2024-03-02/nicolas-maduro-asegura...
matheusmoreira 2y ago
Lula rolled out the red carpet for the venezuelan dictator months into his mandate, welcomed him onto our soil with full military honors. Everybody knows he's a friend of Maduro and many other communist dictators. Despite this, the judge involved in the Twitter case used to censor any speech associating him with dictators as "fake news". If he hasn't recognized the results by now, it's because the situation there must be so bad the political repercussions of doing so will be too great even for him. Notably, he hasn't condemned his dictator buddy either. He's not saying much of anything and letting it play out. His silence on the matter also speaks volumes.

luizfzs 2y ago

"is Brazil doing anything to clamp down on far left support for Venezuela?" They don't get to do anything. As much as one may dislike another country's political system, all they get to do is carry on with life. No country has the right to meddle with another's politics. No foreign person has to right meddle with another's politics. That's the imperialist view of the world. That's not how it should be.

_3u10 2y ago
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Vel%C3%A1zquez https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Vel%C3%A1zquez NATO members regularly interfere in other countries elections, and have a long history of doing so especially in South America. It’s widely accepted as an international norm, dating back to at least to the agreement of the Monroe doctrine with the UK, and continuing to at least 2022 with respect to Paraguay.
- luizfzs 2y ago
  The fact they do doesn't give any legitimacy to their actions. South America is not the NATO's (or anyone's) political experiment playground.