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Wow, I forgot SIM locks were still a thing. Here in the EU this has been dealt with like a decade ago or so.

by seba_dos1 2y ago

jfdjkfdhjds 2y ago
most places in the world theres little sim lock, there's mandated number portability, and there are regulations from marking up the price of the phone to artificially make people breaking contract early to pay a lot. ...and there's the usa.
- dannyobrien 2y ago
  doesn't the US have number portability too? https://www.fcc.gov/general/wireless-local-number-portability-wlnp https://www.fcc.gov/general/wireless-local-number-portabilit...
grahamj 2y ago
Same in Canada, we got a rare regulator win some time ago, much to the chagrin of our draconian carriers. Number portability too.
- refurb 2y ago
  I don't get how this is a benefit to consumers? It's not like providers throw up their hands and say "oh, I get we'll need to take a hit on this one" They just adjust offerings and pricing to compensate for it. With locked plans, they are willing to offer the phone at a discount because they know the cost is offset by the value of the customer acquisition for at least 2 years. If they can't do that, then they'll just sell undiscounted phones. Which is what consumers can do today anyways.
  - SirMaster 2y ago
    Yeah, I am willing to trade being locked to that carrier for a massive discount to my phone. I hope this doesn't mean the discounts go away, because then it will cost me so much more to upgrade phones every few years. It was only $350 for my iPhone 14 Pro at launch for example due to a $1000 discount with trade in. I just looked at the trade-in list and bought the cheapest one on the list refurbished from Amazon, which cost me $350. Traded that in and they gave me a new 14 Pro. I have 0 issues being locked to ATT for 3 years as I need service and I like their service anyways.

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Wow, I forgot SIM locks were still a thing. Here in the EU this has been dealt with like a decade ago or so.

by seba_dos1 2y ago

Wow, I forgot SIM locks were still a thing. Here in the EU this has been dealt with like a decade ago or so.

jfdjkfdhjds 2y ago
most places in the world theres little sim lock, there's mandated number portability, and there are regulations from marking up the price of the phone to artificially make people breaking contract early to pay a lot. ...and there's the usa.
- dannyobrien 2y ago
  doesn't the US have number portability too? https://www.fcc.gov/general/wireless-local-number-portability-wlnp https://www.fcc.gov/general/wireless-local-number-portabilit...
grahamj 2y ago
Same in Canada, we got a rare regulator win some time ago, much to the chagrin of our draconian carriers. Number portability too.
- refurb 2y ago
  I don't get how this is a benefit to consumers? It's not like providers throw up their hands and say "oh, I get we'll need to take a hit on this one" They just adjust offerings and pricing to compensate for it. With locked plans, they are willing to offer the phone at a discount because they know the cost is offset by the value of the customer acquisition for at least 2 years. If they can't do that, then they'll just sell undiscounted phones. Which is what consumers can do today anyways.
  - SirMaster 2y ago
    Yeah, I am willing to trade being locked to that carrier for a massive discount to my phone. I hope this doesn't mean the discounts go away, because then it will cost me so much more to upgrade phones every few years. It was only $350 for my iPhone 14 Pro at launch for example due to a $1000 discount with trade in. I just looked at the trade-in list and bought the cheapest one on the list refurbished from Amazon, which cost me $350. Traded that in and they gave me a new 14 Pro. I have 0 issues being locked to ATT for 3 years as I need service and I like their service anyways.