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True, but it was a much smaller and easier target than, for example, reducing CO2 emissions. It only required some evolutionary changes (remove FCFs) rather tha

True, but it was a much smaller and easier target than, for example, reducing CO2 emissions. It only required some evolutionary changes (remove FCFs) rather than revolutionary changes that also pose an existentially threat to very powerful companies (worldwide oil & gas industry) and require substantiative changes at the national level that are hard to pass politically.

zbrozek 2y ago
They removed CFCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon
- zbrozek 2y ago
  I don't know why I got downvoted for a minor correction of an acronym along with a link explaining what it means.
dehrmann 2y ago
At some point it might be appropriate to frame the problem as being with "very large companies," but we're still at a point where the technology (mostly storage) isn't quite ready. Coming from a US perspective, politicians aren't helping, either. If climate change were really a concern, the US wouldn't be putting a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs, and there'd be a large government push for building out the charging network.
- melling 2y ago
  There is a large government push to build out the charging network. “Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years” https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/ev-charging-stations-slow-rollout/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/...
  - dehrmann 2y ago
    What's sad is most of the EV hesitancy is because of range anxiety, charging stations are the fix, and building a charging station is relatively easy.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    That headline is quite misleading; if you read the article you find that the issue is that it takes time for States to come up with a funding proposal for something that is brand new for them. There's a lot of lead time required for these types of projects.
    - melling 2y ago
      That’s sort of entirely different discussion. My point was we are building 500,000 additional chargers. I’m sure we’ll get there. Once done, it should significantly increase EV adoption.
melling 2y ago
40 years ago Carl Sagan said to stop burning coal and make sure India and China don’t use all their reserves. Imagine how much more time we would have if we’d have listened. https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI?si=Fj1DaPEimOwwEvr9 https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI?si=Fj1DaPEimOwwEvr9 We should be very close to peak coal sometime this decade.

zbrozek 2y ago

They removed CFCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon

zbrozek 2y ago
I don't know why I got downvoted for a minor correction of an acronym along with a link explaining what it means.

dehrmann 2y ago

At some point it might be appropriate to frame the problem as being with "very large companies," but we're still at a point where the technology (mostly storage) isn't quite ready. Coming from a US perspective, politicians aren't helping, either. If climate change were really a concern, the US wouldn't be putting a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs, and there'd be a large government push for building out the charging network.

melling 2y ago
There is a large government push to build out the charging network. “Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years” https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/ev-charging-stations-slow-rollout/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/...
- dehrmann 2y ago
  What's sad is most of the EV hesitancy is because of range anxiety, charging stations are the fix, and building a charging station is relatively easy.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  That headline is quite misleading; if you read the article you find that the issue is that it takes time for States to come up with a funding proposal for something that is brand new for them. There's a lot of lead time required for these types of projects.
  - melling 2y ago
    That’s sort of entirely different discussion. My point was we are building 500,000 additional chargers. I’m sure we’ll get there. Once done, it should significantly increase EV adoption.

melling 2y ago

40 years ago Carl Sagan said to stop burning coal and make sure India and China don’t use all their reserves. Imagine how much more time we would have if we’d have listened. https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI?si=Fj1DaPEimOwwEvr9 https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI?si=Fj1DaPEimOwwEvr9 We should be very close to peak coal sometime this decade.