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So educate me. What exactly is the critics definition of “woke” that somehow is anything other than diverse?

Jensson 2y ago
Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that. When you can't criticize something that is diverse then it ensures it will be shit. You can have diverse things that are good, but not when it isn't allowed to be criticized since they will call anyone who criticizes it a racist bigot. That is what the critics means with woke.
- nerdjon 2y ago
  No, you very much can criticize something that is diverse because there are aspects outside of that. Like Concord. You could even criticize how it’s diverse. If it’s done in an insensitive manner for example. Maybe they changed a character after they were established, (as a gay man myself I hate when they change a characters sexuality). Could complain that something is too sexual for the target audience(hint, gay couples existing and showing affection isn’t “sexual” when a straight couple can do it and no one bats an eye). But if your criticism is the existence of diversity, you’re a racist bigot and you should be called out for that. There is zero valid criticism on the mere existence of someone different than you in media.
- Capricorn2481 2y ago
  > Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that So if the game is woke, the game is inherently hostile to your criticism? You, the consumer, are being attacked by the game? How can a game be made in a way that is hostile to your criticism without fourth-wall breaking finger wagging? Hating on Concord right now is the literal safest opinion you could have about it. This makes it not Woke by your definition. > That is what the critics means with woke This is not what most people mean by woke. It's nice that you have a sunnier definition of it that criticizes surface-level diversity in place of substance, but anything with women or black people in it is considered woke nowadays, regardless of quality. You will often see people change their minds about something being woke once it sells well because it goes against the narrative that if something is "woke" nobody wants it. We've seen this with Barbie, Baldurs Gates 3, and even Life is Strange. A game that is the closest thing to "woke" anyone could mean. It's just a dog whistle for people that want to keep things white.

Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that. When you can't criticize something that is diverse then it ensures it will be shit. You can have diverse things that are good, but not when it isn't allowed to be criticized since they will call anyone who criticizes it a racist bigot. That is what the critics means with woke.

nerdjon 2y ago
No, you very much can criticize something that is diverse because there are aspects outside of that. Like Concord. You could even criticize how it’s diverse. If it’s done in an insensitive manner for example. Maybe they changed a character after they were established, (as a gay man myself I hate when they change a characters sexuality). Could complain that something is too sexual for the target audience(hint, gay couples existing and showing affection isn’t “sexual” when a straight couple can do it and no one bats an eye). But if your criticism is the existence of diversity, you’re a racist bigot and you should be called out for that. There is zero valid criticism on the mere existence of someone different than you in media.
Capricorn2481 2y ago
> Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that So if the game is woke, the game is inherently hostile to your criticism? You, the consumer, are being attacked by the game? How can a game be made in a way that is hostile to your criticism without fourth-wall breaking finger wagging? Hating on Concord right now is the literal safest opinion you could have about it. This makes it not Woke by your definition. > That is what the critics means with woke This is not what most people mean by woke. It's nice that you have a sunnier definition of it that criticizes surface-level diversity in place of substance, but anything with women or black people in it is considered woke nowadays, regardless of quality. You will often see people change their minds about something being woke once it sells well because it goes against the narrative that if something is "woke" nobody wants it. We've seen this with Barbie, Baldurs Gates 3, and even Life is Strange. A game that is the closest thing to "woke" anyone could mean. It's just a dog whistle for people that want to keep things white.