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Yes. Climate catastrophe for one. Inability to see the point of life when you can’t even afford to move out. Etc. there’s hundreds of theories.

lazide 2y ago
‘Climate catastrophe’ is causing an epidemic of loneliness and mental health issues? Historic cost of living reverting to the mean of most of human existence causing unusual changes in human mental health? Do tell.
- aaomidi 2y ago
  > Historic cost of living reverting to the mean of most of human existence causing unusual changes in human mental health? Yes? Regressing from where your parents were, and the state of society they were in is actually quite hurtful. I'm saying these are theories, just like yours.
  - lazide 2y ago
    I don’t see how yours are theories as they don’t seem to have any relation to the underlying anything, or have anything testable per-se. Frankly, I’m struggling to see how they’re even hypotheses? I could see how adding a few sentences onto them could result in such things. Which is why I’m asking for you to elaborate. After all Hurtful != lonely or depressed. Problems existing != lonely or depressed. We’ve always had problems of some sort. I’m unaware of any time in history where someone didn’t have something nasty to say about anyone, or there wasn’t something bad potentially happening. Lonely or depressed tends to happen when someone is isolated and/or feels like there is nothing they can or should do to resolve an existential issue. Depression tends to be the ‘I should hide in a corner and pretend I don’t exist’ survival strategy. Not necessarily because there is a problem in general. But the issue is unlikely to just be ‘living at home with the parents’ still, since in Europe and Asia that is and has been a thing for a very long time, and we don’t see such an epidemic there eh? (Or do we?) My personal theory is that the problem is less ‘the problems’ - rather that our increasingly sedentary/isolated lifestyle is leading to a downward spiral where we’d rather bitch about/ruminate on problems (and ramp up anxiety fear to try to get moving) than actually solve problems and move on, or even just accept problems and live.
s1artibartfast 2y ago
Seems highly testable. You could if the climate catastrophy and affordability crisis cause the same amount of distress for people who spend lots of time with friends vs have no friends. It shouldn't be shocking studies show loneliness and depression tracks well with how many close friends people have and how much time they spend with them.

lazide 2y ago

‘Climate catastrophe’ is causing an epidemic of loneliness and mental health issues? Historic cost of living reverting to the mean of most of human existence causing unusual changes in human mental health? Do tell.

aaomidi 2y ago
> Historic cost of living reverting to the mean of most of human existence causing unusual changes in human mental health? Yes? Regressing from where your parents were, and the state of society they were in is actually quite hurtful. I'm saying these are theories, just like yours.
- lazide 2y ago
  I don’t see how yours are theories as they don’t seem to have any relation to the underlying anything, or have anything testable per-se. Frankly, I’m struggling to see how they’re even hypotheses? I could see how adding a few sentences onto them could result in such things. Which is why I’m asking for you to elaborate. After all Hurtful != lonely or depressed. Problems existing != lonely or depressed. We’ve always had problems of some sort. I’m unaware of any time in history where someone didn’t have something nasty to say about anyone, or there wasn’t something bad potentially happening. Lonely or depressed tends to happen when someone is isolated and/or feels like there is nothing they can or should do to resolve an existential issue. Depression tends to be the ‘I should hide in a corner and pretend I don’t exist’ survival strategy. Not necessarily because there is a problem in general. But the issue is unlikely to just be ‘living at home with the parents’ still, since in Europe and Asia that is and has been a thing for a very long time, and we don’t see such an epidemic there eh? (Or do we?) My personal theory is that the problem is less ‘the problems’ - rather that our increasingly sedentary/isolated lifestyle is leading to a downward spiral where we’d rather bitch about/ruminate on problems (and ramp up anxiety fear to try to get moving) than actually solve problems and move on, or even just accept problems and live.

s1artibartfast 2y ago

Seems highly testable. You could if the climate catastrophy and affordability crisis cause the same amount of distress for people who spend lots of time with friends vs have no friends. It shouldn't be shocking studies show loneliness and depression tracks well with how many close friends people have and how much time they spend with them.