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When I buy an iPhone I know I’m not buying a phone optimized for easy user repair. I go in eyes wide open and I’m fine with it. I know the product is optimize

by refurb 2y ago

When I buy an iPhone I know I’m not buying a phone optimized for easy user repair. I go in eyes wide open and I’m fine with it. I know the product is optimized for compactness and efficient use of space. It’s optimized for ruggedness, and water resistance. I would never do a self-repair and expect the cover to be held on with Phillips screws and a bulky o-ring. And if I choose to do a self-repair I fully expect that I’ll need to buy expensive tools I can’t use with any other brand. And I don’t expect Apple to create a manual for “how to do janky iPhone repairs at home with a multi-tool and silicone caulking” I’m well aware that if this is not the kind of phone I want, then I’ll keep looking for another phone manufacturer. It’s like buying a Porsche and complaining it’s hard to fit a car seat in or ask “why isn’t there room for hauling building materials”. If I want those things I don’t look at Porsches.

palata 2y ago
> It’s like buying a Porsche and complaining Is it, though? How many iPhone owners can afford a Porsche? I don't think it's remotely like a Porsche: not the same volume, not the same customers. I could say "it's like buying shoes and expecting to be able to change shoelaces" and it wouldn't have much less value than your comparison.
- pseudosaid 2y ago
  try again. affording a porsche, volume, and same customers have nothing to do with prior poster’s statement. its about moving in next to a music club and complaining about noise
  - palata 2y ago
    It's actually about moving next to a music club without knowing that there is a music club, in a world where the vast majority of (affordable) apartments are next to a music club. Would it be weird to complain about the fact that there is always noise everywhere and that you wish we improved the situation?
- refurb 2y ago
  > I don't think it's remotely like a Porsche Ok, replace it with a $5,000 used pickup truck that is 20 years old. You don't buy an a pickup truck then complain about the ride quality or fuel economy. Or the fact it doesn't have 6 seats for passengers.
Sakos 2y ago
Most users aren't consciously making this choice. It's great that you are, but every time an iPhone owner would balk at the insane repair costs, all we could do is shrug and say that's just how Apple designs their devices. So, honestly, you can bug off with this "fuck you, I know what I'm getting into" attitude. It's telling what kind of response I'm getting. All you care about is yourself.
- refurb 2y ago
  I'm not sure I'd blame Apple for their customers not doing their due diligence. That's a basic responsibility of consumers. If they choose not to go in eyes wide open, that's on them. Should we design premium products for the lowest common denominator customer? They wouldn't be premium products anymore.

by refurb 2y ago

palata 2y ago

> It’s like buying a Porsche and complaining Is it, though? How many iPhone owners can afford a Porsche? I don't think it's remotely like a Porsche: not the same volume, not the same customers. I could say "it's like buying shoes and expecting to be able to change shoelaces" and it wouldn't have much less value than your comparison.

pseudosaid 2y ago
try again. affording a porsche, volume, and same customers have nothing to do with prior poster’s statement. its about moving in next to a music club and complaining about noise
- palata 2y ago
  It's actually about moving next to a music club without knowing that there is a music club, in a world where the vast majority of (affordable) apartments are next to a music club. Would it be weird to complain about the fact that there is always noise everywhere and that you wish we improved the situation?
refurb 2y ago
> I don't think it's remotely like a Porsche Ok, replace it with a $5,000 used pickup truck that is 20 years old. You don't buy an a pickup truck then complain about the ride quality or fuel economy. Or the fact it doesn't have 6 seats for passengers.

Sakos 2y ago

Most users aren't consciously making this choice. It's great that you are, but every time an iPhone owner would balk at the insane repair costs, all we could do is shrug and say that's just how Apple designs their devices. So, honestly, you can bug off with this "fuck you, I know what I'm getting into" attitude. It's telling what kind of response I'm getting. All you care about is yourself.

refurb 2y ago
I'm not sure I'd blame Apple for their customers not doing their due diligence. That's a basic responsibility of consumers. If they choose not to go in eyes wide open, that's on them. Should we design premium products for the lowest common denominator customer? They wouldn't be premium products anymore.