You've gone from false to unfalsifiable! (or at least unnecessarily vague). - Plenty of electric drivetrains still use neodymium for example[0]. Whether it's t

You've gone from false to unfalsifiable! (or at least unnecessarily vague). - Plenty of electric drivetrains still use neodymium for example[0]. Whether it's too much or likely to change soon I don't know, but I feel like that's crucial to making a judgement on the overall harmfulness. - Battery recycling is happening[1], but so is plastic recycling. Are batteries likely to be recycled, and are the environmental benefits and available profit sufficient to make it significant in the near future? Seems like yes, but it's not clear to me. - Which grid? Is capacity sufficient just on average, or also at peak demand? Would that still be the case if EV adoption increases in the next five years? (or some timescale to short to build more plants). Looks like the US will do ok[2] but again it's not obvious. - Does this also apply to buying new? Are you including resale value? What about carbon generated at power stations to provide the electrical power? This is a complex claim and it's hard to do anything with unless it's sharpened and given some numbers or at least references. Seems like price to consumer is roughly the same[3] and CO2 emissions even over about five years of normal use and will improve if the grid moves towards cleaner fuel[4]. Overall I think it's annoying for a commenter who knows the truth to go to the trouble of being convincing, but it's critical for having an interesting discussion that might change someone's mind. [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/automakers-suppliers-pushing-cut-rare-earths-evs-2023-11-14/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/automa... [1] https://www.npr.org/2024/06/27/nx-s1-5019454/ev-battery-recycling-us https://www.npr.org/2024/06/27/nx-s1-5019454/ev-battery-recy... [2] https://news.mit.edu/2023/minimizing-electric-vehicles-impact-grid-0315 https://news.mit.edu/2023/minimizing-electric-vehicles-impac... [3] https://www.nada.org/nada/nada-headlines/beyond-sticker-price-cost-ownership-evs-v-ice-vehicles https://www.nada.org/nada/nada-headlines/beyond-sticker-pric... [4] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/electric-vehicles-beat-gas-cars-on-climate-emissions-over-time/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/electric-vehicles...