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>On top of that, the commenter is completely ignorant of the rise of saltwater batteries which don't even use lithium. I'd not call the rise, yet. The Na ones'

• AtlasBarfed 2y ago
  Saltwater batteries and lfp batteries don't require nearly as much active heating and safety measures as nmc chemistries. So the pack level they become a lot more competitive. Rise of high density, salt, water and lfp. We should be able to produce 300 and 400 mile range sedans with sodium ion and LFP chemistries. Just go look at the catl density numbers all the stuff they have going into production. Obviously has not scaled to the level it needs to. That's a big ramp up. I believe the current numbers are 160 Watt hours per kilogram for sodium ion and a little over 200 for lfp. With cell to pack projections of 90%, while pack density of nmc is like 60-70% to the cooling and safety system requirements, sodium ion is a revolutionary development for the cheap EV. The five year road maps for sodium ion gets it close to 200 watt hours per kilogram. Lfp should be reaching 250 Watt hours per kilogram in the next five years.