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Hollywood Can't Ditch Its Teslas Fast Enough:"They're Destroying Their Leases.."
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoHollywood overestimates its relevance. I don’t own one but Teslas are still the best electric cars.
- blkhawk 2y ago"best" is relative. They are innovative in some things.
- threeseed 2y agoLucid unquestionably owns the title of best electric car. And in my opinion Porsche deserves second place. But at price points well out of reach of most people.
- threesevenths 2y agoI think there are plenty of other competent alternatives on the market now that match the price points of Teslas. Their supercharger network with free or cheap access was their main competitive advantage. I don’t think it’s as relevant now for a purchasing decision.
- wilg 2y agoThere really aren't.
- Propelloni 2y agoI mostly agree. Tesla cars have been surpassed quality-wise for quite some time now by the established manufacturers from Europe and Asia. But Tesla's charger network is still a boon. Charging on the road is really a hassle with all the different networks trying to lock you in. In Europe AFIR [1] is going to change that, but it is going to take some time. [1] https://transport.ec.europa.eu/transport-themes/clean-transport/alternative-fuels-sustainable-mobility-europe/alternative-fuels-infrastructure_en https://transport.ec.europa.eu/transport-themes/clean-transp...
- Jaepa 2y agoYes, but this is wider trend. EV sales are flat to down last quarter. This is pretty much exclusively due to sales of Teslas slumping. All pretty much all of the other EV manufacturers have sold record volume.
- mike_hearn 2y agoNo, it's got nothing to do with Tesla. European manufacturers are seeing huge drops in sales too. ACEA is a European auto industry trade group: https://www.acea.auto/press-release/european-auto-industry-calls-for-urgent-action-as-demand-for-evs-declines/ https://www.acea.auto/press-release/european-auto-industry-c... See the Notes For Editors section: "The market decline is affecting many brands, including and beyond ACEA members, across the board (ACEA August car registration data)"
- wakawaka28 2y agoAll other EV manufacturers have short records compared to Tesla. I also think Tesla is suffering from its own success. People are getting tired of the same designs and want to try something different. If not for extensive government BS, almost nobody would be buying EVs at all because they are impractical for most consumers.
- dyauspitr 2y agoNot necessarily, I have a Ford F150 Lightning and it’s a fantastic truck. I’d pick it over my old model 3.
- mrweasel 2y agoThat might depend on what you value. I recently learned what it takes to open the door of a Tesla, in the case you crash and the doors lose power. Obviously there's an emergency door opener, but I wouldn't trust that my kid could find and use that on their own. That alone would keep me from buying a Tesla. For me, Teslas have a number of what I consider design flaws, but which are sold as features.
- wilg 2y agoAlmost all that stuff is misremembered or misreported.
- csa 2y ago> but I wouldn't trust that my kid could find and use that on their own I’m not sure how old your kid is, but you’re making something that is very simple in reality into something that is very complicated in your mind. It’s a lever. People who don’t know to press the button pull it up all the time. It’s the most obvious thing in the world. I will also add that “kid-proof catastrophic car crash back up door opening options” rarely rate high on make or break features for cars. If anyone takes this concern seriously, I strongly recommend you take a test drive and check it out for yourself. There is a ton of FUD around teslas that largely seems to be spread by folks who have little or no actual experience with them. I own a model y. It’s not perfect, but the imperfections are rarely the ones you read about on HN.
- mrweasel 2y ago> It’s a lever. In the backseat of the model Y it's a wire, hidden in the door compartment under a mat and a piece of plastic you need to pick up with your fingernails. Unless they've updated it since I was shown it a few years back. Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PbRBbIGnv4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PbRBbIGnv4 But front doors are easy enough.
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- wilg 2y agoFinally someone with the bravery to blame the Jews!
- infotainment 2y agoRegardless of whether or not you agree with him, Elon has really offered everyone a masterclass in alienating your own customer base.
- ben_w 2y agoMm. I was rather hoping that this would at least attract the (stereotypically not interested in the environment) republicans, but apparently not.
- hinkley 2y agoNo they want big trucks modded to blow extra smoke so they can own the libs. People on twitter told Elon he was nuts the very first time he started toying with conservative ideas. Just jam that whole hand in your mouth and bite the wrist that feeds you. Great idea bud. He’s a fucking idiot for having not listened. Which any of his dozen children also could have told you.
- ben_w 2y ago> Which any of his dozen children also could have told you. Perhaps; certainly he would benefit from an anti-sycophant to tell him "no" and that he will listen to.
- wilg 2y agoIt's pretty amazing how much they really like Elon (enough to put him on a billboard with Trump) but they'll still shit talk EVs and solar power with abandon.
- choko 2y agoIt's really not. You don't have to like everything someone does to support them or accept their support. Purity tests are toxic, and it is a large problem on the left side of the aisle.
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- transfire 2y agoYou know, a lot of other people work at Tesla besides Elon Musk.
- dyauspitr 2y agoElon is raining hellfire on anything close to him right now, it’s hard to look past him.
- danielktdoranie 2y ago[flagged]
- croes 2y agoJust like the presidential candidate Musk endorses.
- talldayo 2y agoAnd they all answer to the same executive.
- ben_w 2y agoAnd if they got in the news for their connection to Tesla, they'd also be relevant. Musk's greatest strength is his biggest weakness: being a showman who grabs most of the limelight was critical to getting enough people, buyers and investors, interested in electric cars before the charger network was there; now all that is working against him (and all his companies), especially in the absence of a dedicated PR team.
- wilg 2y agoBut Elon is the only one who works in PR.
- croes 2y agoMaybe the other people of Tesla should stand up against their company damaging CEO. Otherwise we can assume consent.
- gttalbot 2y agoThe Ford Mustang Mach E is a compelling alternative to a Tesla.
- gmac 2y agoAny reason why that car in particular? It looks to me like there are lots of compelling alternatives right now (Korean, European, Chinese, …).
- dzhiurgis 2y agoEverything is an alternative until you weight features+performance/price
- sanp 2y agoI have had a great experience with Ioniq 5 and the real world range is better than Model Y (similar price point model).
- wilg 2y agoI'm suspect of your range claim, do you have a source?
- gmac 2y agoI really liked the Ioniq 5 on a test drive, and my neighbours who lease one really like it too. The Renault Scenic e-tech (maybe not sold in US?) also has a longer range than a Model Y and for less money. It seems generally pretty nice. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/scenic/357432/new-renault-scenic-e-tech-embarrasses-tesla-model-y-price-and-range https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/scenic/357432/new-rena...
- wilg 2y agoThe only car I would consider instead over Model Y would be a Rivian R2, which is not out for a while. And I really like FSD.
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- danielktdoranie 2y agoElon’s sacrifice and protection of free speech on the internet has motivated me to support him financially, not only by paying for x.com’s premium+ but I am currently waiting for the CyberTruck to become available in Europe. I admire Elon a lot, not just for purchasing Twitter, not just as business man, but for what he has achieved with SpaceX: successful where long time aeronautical companies like Boeing have failed.
- Xiol32 2y agoCan you post the word 'cis' or 'cisgender' on X?
- ivewonyoung 2y agoYes.
- croes 2y agoHe as achieved? Who exactly build the rockets?
- abenga 2y agoThe cybertruck will never pass pedestrian (and other) safety tests in Europe. It will never be sold there in its current form.
- fmobus 2y agoFunny, I got perma banned from X for calling supposedly insulting a pastor. So much for free speech.
- anonzzzies 2y agohttps://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/21/world/americas/elon-musk-x-brazil.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/21/world/americas/elon-musk-...
- anonzzzies 2y agoHe started and grew some amazing companies, but free speech... You might be drinking too much of the koolaid.
- wilg 2y agoMy Tesla Model Y is the best thing I've ever bought. There's nothing else close on the market. The other options are really poor. Most other EVs are ugly, clunky and lame, have poor driver assistance features, charge slowly, or have other major drawbacks. I know many people who have Tesla vehicles and think they are excellent products. However, Elon Musk's descent into mean, angry, offensive, lazy, factually incorrect and incoherent right-wing idiocy has made every one of us uncomfortable with continuing to support the company. Most of us are actively considering other, worse brands for our next car. Many people I know or have talked to won't even consider a Tesla now. It's also no longer exciting to talk about the company or the products. It used to be exciting to talk about the future, electrification, technology. Now it's all mired in the muck of angry MAGA politics. It's a real problem. I think Elon Musk is (was?) probably the best entrepreneur and businessperson since Steve Jobs, and his reputation has been permanently stained by his actions in the past couple years. Unfortunately, I think the same brain thing - stubbornness, singlemindedness, grit - that made him able to build unusually incredible companies like Tesla and SpaceX are going to cause him to continue doubling down on his current self-destructive path.
- aksss 2y agoThis is called, “cutting your nose to spite your face”.
- wilg 2y agoWhat is?
- aksss 2y agoDumping what you find to be the best vehicle for your needs / technical enjoyment based on either a personality in the company, the fear of other’s impression of you for driving it, or both.
- wilg 2y agoI know right! Tells you a lot about how unlikable Elon has become that it feels like a trade-off worth making. Also, people make this exact argument a lot, but I have found that when they do they usually just agree with Elon's new politics. Do you?
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- dave333 2y agoMaybe Elon is infiltrating the Republican party to further his long term goal of saving the world from climate change. Fortunately he's not eligible to run for President.
- jsbisviewtiful 2y ago> further his long term goal of saving the world from climate change Elon doesn’t give a shit about climate change. If he did, he wouldn’t be such an egregious polluter and opponent of public transit. Cards Against Humanity just sued him for what he did to their preserved land.