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Intel has focused on manufacturing efficiency for years now. Their innovation abilities have been lacking. A combination of Qualcomm and Intel will be a powerho

Intel has focused on manufacturing efficiency for years now. Their innovation abilities have been lacking. A combination of Qualcomm and Intel will be a powerhouse. Intel as an entity will disappear but Qualcomm will be the stronger for it. I doubt Intel will go for it but I hope it happens.

qwytw 2y ago
> Their innovation abilities have been lacking And Qualcomm's haven't? What did they really design besides the Snapdragon X Elite in the last 10+ years? > but I hope it happens So more industry concentration and even less competition would somehow be a good thing?
- mewse-hn 2y ago
  > What did they really design besides the Snapdragon X Elite in the last 10+ years? The Snapdragon 8 series have been the flagship SoCs for non-Apple phones for years, that's why people had high hopes for the Snapdragon X on PCs
  - qwytw 2y ago
    > The Snapdragon 8 series They "just" are just using standard ARM cores which is hardly comparable to what Intel and Apple are doing (and they have been lagging behind Apple by a few years since forever; arguably Intel is closer to the M series than Qualcomm is to A series). > Snapdragon X I thought it's because they finally designed their own core, since ARM has been completely ignoring the laptop market and couldn't really offer anything?
  - silisili 2y ago
    Snapdragons have mostly been reference ARM designs with Adreno bolted on being the big selling point, since it blows away Mali or whatever the reference design is today. They got that from AMD of all places, hence the name being an anagram of Radeon.
- packetlost 2y ago
  > What did they really design besides the Snapdragon X Elite in the last 10+ years? Lots of 5G modems
  - Wytwwww 2y ago
    It's pretty easy to design the best 5G modems when you're are almost (effectively) the only company that's legally allowed to make them. They are basically a monopoly... Intel would be doing much better as well if they didn't have to share x86 with AMD and could sue ARM into oblivion...
    - jprd 2y ago
      I imagine Apple would disagree.
      - Wytwwww 2y ago
        We'll never really know though, will we? Or are you claiming that the endless patent related lawsuits (going both ways) had no impact on Intel's/Apple's efforts?

qwytw 2y ago

> Their innovation abilities have been lacking And Qualcomm's haven't? What did they really design besides the Snapdragon X Elite in the last 10+ years? > but I hope it happens So more industry concentration and even less competition would somehow be a good thing?

mewse-hn 2y ago
> What did they really design besides the Snapdragon X Elite in the last 10+ years? The Snapdragon 8 series have been the flagship SoCs for non-Apple phones for years, that's why people had high hopes for the Snapdragon X on PCs
- qwytw 2y ago
  > The Snapdragon 8 series They "just" are just using standard ARM cores which is hardly comparable to what Intel and Apple are doing (and they have been lagging behind Apple by a few years since forever; arguably Intel is closer to the M series than Qualcomm is to A series). > Snapdragon X I thought it's because they finally designed their own core, since ARM has been completely ignoring the laptop market and couldn't really offer anything?
- silisili 2y ago
  Snapdragons have mostly been reference ARM designs with Adreno bolted on being the big selling point, since it blows away Mali or whatever the reference design is today. They got that from AMD of all places, hence the name being an anagram of Radeon.
packetlost 2y ago
> What did they really design besides the Snapdragon X Elite in the last 10+ years? Lots of 5G modems
- Wytwwww 2y ago
  It's pretty easy to design the best 5G modems when you're are almost (effectively) the only company that's legally allowed to make them. They are basically a monopoly... Intel would be doing much better as well if they didn't have to share x86 with AMD and could sue ARM into oblivion...
  - jprd 2y ago
    I imagine Apple would disagree.
    - Wytwwww 2y ago
      We'll never really know though, will we? Or are you claiming that the endless patent related lawsuits (going both ways) had no impact on Intel's/Apple's efforts?