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It needs to download the 20 distinct update patches that they added in the past 4 hours, in series, all of which combine to together change the actual product i

It needs to download the 20 distinct update patches that they added in the past 4 hours, in series, all of which combine to together change the actual product in precisely no way whatsoever.

HeXetic 2y ago
> change the actual product in precisely no way whatsoever How dare you belittle the new Super Ultra Nitro Deluxe Gold Platinum emoji, stickers, and playable sound effects.
- troupo 2y ago
  Don't forget the 15 000 or so notifications that you can't realistically turn off
  - smolder 2y ago
    I mute every "server" permanently, disable all "mentions" (@here, @role, etc) and it stays quiet except for DMs. If there's something I want to see I'll go look in a channel.
    - squigz 2y ago
      How do you know there's something you want to see? (I run a relatively small Discord community so I'm sincerely curious how people engage with servers and discover new stuff in it)
      - boneitis 2y ago
        I have applied the same measures as GP; if it is interesting/important enough, I will find it manually. (Similarly, I am an administrator of a public server; I regularly remind regulars and other admins that I'll only get notified from DMs.) For announcement channels that I'm feeling more certain I don't want to miss: I created a server for myself with a channel that has subscriptions to all the announcement channels that I want to be notified about (I also check this manually, but at least it is a custom-tailored feed just for me). There is no coping with the (..checks Discord..) "4k+" outstanding notifications (and counting) that I am bombarded with. Slightly ironic that the Discord interface can't even be bothered to tell me the exact count; I'm not going to bother. It used to amuse me to see people complain about @everyone tags. The commonality of it leaves me desensitized these days.
      - smolder 2y ago
        The channels with no activity remain grey instead of white. It's important to me that I discover messages when I have some downtime and am interested in so-called discovery, as opposed to having junk interrupt my flow at times when I am not.
    - troupo 2y ago
      It will still show you notifications like "suggested people to follow" :) It's an ongoing battle
lol768 2y ago
Why does it have this update mechanism, and semi-regularly force me to download a new .deb file to install w/ dpkg?
- gorbypark 2y ago
  The deb file probably contains new versions of electron (or at least versions of electron that change the actual v8/chrome version) and the regular updates during launch are loading JavaScript. Just a guess.
- talhah 2y ago
  You can disable the deb check by putting "SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": true in your configuration file and just let your package manager update it
- bogwog 2y ago
  To be fair, that's on you for not using the Flatpak version.
  - sgarland 2y ago
    Flatpak and its ilk are a scourge that should be avoided. I don’t want to have to install another package management system when apt is right there. Moreover, I like apt precisely because it has in-depth knowledge about everything in the system. If I install something from source, it’s a careful decision, and I know the tradeoffs. With things like Flatpak, that line is blurred.
    - aaomidi 2y ago
      ? Apt doesn’t require you to install from source? It’s not even its default behavior? Flatpak provides basic level of sandboxing that ensures non-malicious stupid stuff like how steam had a bug to delete the entire user directory doesn’t actually impact you. Beyond that, discord probably won’t solve issues with the N package managers if something happens. They’re a lot more likely to solve a Flatpak problem though.

It needs to download the 20 distinct update patches that they added in the past 4 hours, in series, all of which combine to together change the actual product in precisely no way whatsoever.

HeXetic 2y ago

> change the actual product in precisely no way whatsoever How dare you belittle the new Super Ultra Nitro Deluxe Gold Platinum emoji, stickers, and playable sound effects.

troupo 2y ago
Don't forget the 15 000 or so notifications that you can't realistically turn off
- smolder 2y ago
  I mute every "server" permanently, disable all "mentions" (@here, @role, etc) and it stays quiet except for DMs. If there's something I want to see I'll go look in a channel.
  - squigz 2y ago
    How do you know there's something you want to see? (I run a relatively small Discord community so I'm sincerely curious how people engage with servers and discover new stuff in it)
    - boneitis 2y ago
      I have applied the same measures as GP; if it is interesting/important enough, I will find it manually. (Similarly, I am an administrator of a public server; I regularly remind regulars and other admins that I'll only get notified from DMs.) For announcement channels that I'm feeling more certain I don't want to miss: I created a server for myself with a channel that has subscriptions to all the announcement channels that I want to be notified about (I also check this manually, but at least it is a custom-tailored feed just for me). There is no coping with the (..checks Discord..) "4k+" outstanding notifications (and counting) that I am bombarded with. Slightly ironic that the Discord interface can't even be bothered to tell me the exact count; I'm not going to bother. It used to amuse me to see people complain about @everyone tags. The commonality of it leaves me desensitized these days.
    - smolder 2y ago
      The channels with no activity remain grey instead of white. It's important to me that I discover messages when I have some downtime and am interested in so-called discovery, as opposed to having junk interrupt my flow at times when I am not.
  - troupo 2y ago
    It will still show you notifications like "suggested people to follow" :) It's an ongoing battle

lol768 2y ago

Why does it have this update mechanism, and semi-regularly force me to download a new .deb file to install w/ dpkg?

gorbypark 2y ago
The deb file probably contains new versions of electron (or at least versions of electron that change the actual v8/chrome version) and the regular updates during launch are loading JavaScript. Just a guess.
talhah 2y ago
You can disable the deb check by putting "SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": true in your configuration file and just let your package manager update it
bogwog 2y ago
To be fair, that's on you for not using the Flatpak version.
- sgarland 2y ago
  Flatpak and its ilk are a scourge that should be avoided. I don’t want to have to install another package management system when apt is right there. Moreover, I like apt precisely because it has in-depth knowledge about everything in the system. If I install something from source, it’s a careful decision, and I know the tradeoffs. With things like Flatpak, that line is blurred.
  - aaomidi 2y ago
    ? Apt doesn’t require you to install from source? It’s not even its default behavior? Flatpak provides basic level of sandboxing that ensures non-malicious stupid stuff like how steam had a bug to delete the entire user directory doesn’t actually impact you. Beyond that, discord probably won’t solve issues with the N package managers if something happens. They’re a lot more likely to solve a Flatpak problem though.