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There are multiple axes to these things. US liberals are still progressive in that they want to push law and culture into new territory, and republicans are sti
by s1artibartfast 2y ago
There are multiple axes to these things. US liberals are still progressive in that they want to push law and culture into new territory, and republicans are still conservative in that they resist change or want to go backwards.
However, it is pretty clear to me that liberals are currently the dominant force in setting and policing culture and behavior. I think this is the the change you are thinking of between the later 1900's and 2000 onwards.
- kcplate 2y agoI wish people would stop using “liberal” to describe the left nowadays. The progressive left today is so far away from “liberal” both in the historic understanding and the classical definition of the term that it’s arguably flipped its meaning. It’s a shame but it’s basically now just a term used to categorize anyone who basically aligns with the US Democratic Party. Beliefs behind liberalism be damned, it’s just a political affiliation now.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoyeah, as someone who identifies with Classical liberalism, me too. I tried to fight the tide but it seemed like an uphill battle that spoiled any conversation from the start. The words Liberal and Left both start with the letter L, so I guess they are the same thing now.
- CaptainFever 2y agoNote that leftists specifically hate liberals. "Shitlib" is a slur in the leftist space. The subreddit r/alltheleft has "Leftists > Liberals" as their description, and so on. I believe conservativism is aligned with order, liberalism is aligned with freedom (with libertarianism being the extreme version of it), and leftism is aligned with equality.