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At the end of the day this is an amateur mistake God I wish. More than one of my coworkers has made this exact mistake with our (thankfully internal) front-end

At the end of the day this is an amateur mistake God I wish. More than one of my coworkers has made this exact mistake with our (thankfully internal) front-end apps.

albedoa 2y ago
Are you defining amateurs as people who are not your coworkers? It can still be an amateur mistake.
- randomdata 2y ago
  Coworker implies paid work, and therefore they are not amateurs. They very well may make the same mistakes, but those mistakes would be professional mistakes.
  - JohnMakin 2y ago
    Why this level of pedantry when the meaning is absolutely clear? A professional can make an amateur mistake. This makes perfect sense. That isn't implying the professional is actually an amateur, but that he made a mistake that an amateur would make.
    - ghodith 2y ago
      For some added pedantry: aren't all the mistakes that a professional might make, also ones an amateur would make? In fact, it seems like an amateur is likely to run into all mistakes more often, thereby making all mistakes amateur mistakes; unless there some class of mistake that amateurs are better at avoiding?
      - digging 2y ago
        There are probably mistakes an amateur cannot make because they can't penetrate the problems where the mistakes would be made.
  - albedoa 2y ago
    That is some next-level bad faith. Impressive.
knowitnone 2y ago
If it's internal, did they really need to have auth?
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > If it's internal, did they really need to have auth? Nothing on a network is truly internal. The moment you break the physical link between metal and man you're in an unintuitive, and thus insecure, state.
- larsrc 2y ago
  YES!!! You need auth to prevent employees from looking up sensitive user data without a good reason, or it'll be a stalker's haven. And to prevent possible intruders from gaining more data/access. Defense in depth. And for preventing an experiment from wiping use data. And for so many other reasons!
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  The term of art is "Friendly fraud". A significant amount of product stolen from retail stores actually goes out the back door.
make3 2y ago
I guess we're not always professionals at all the work that we do, if that makes sense

At the end of the day this is an amateur mistake God I wish. More than one of my coworkers has made this exact mistake with our (thankfully internal) front-end apps.

albedoa 2y ago

Are you defining amateurs as people who are not your coworkers? It can still be an amateur mistake.

randomdata 2y ago
Coworker implies paid work, and therefore they are not amateurs. They very well may make the same mistakes, but those mistakes would be professional mistakes.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  Why this level of pedantry when the meaning is absolutely clear? A professional can make an amateur mistake. This makes perfect sense. That isn't implying the professional is actually an amateur, but that he made a mistake that an amateur would make.
  - ghodith 2y ago
    For some added pedantry: aren't all the mistakes that a professional might make, also ones an amateur would make? In fact, it seems like an amateur is likely to run into all mistakes more often, thereby making all mistakes amateur mistakes; unless there some class of mistake that amateurs are better at avoiding?
    - digging 2y ago
      There are probably mistakes an amateur cannot make because they can't penetrate the problems where the mistakes would be made.
- albedoa 2y ago
  That is some next-level bad faith. Impressive.

knowitnone 2y ago

If it's internal, did they really need to have auth?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> If it's internal, did they really need to have auth? Nothing on a network is truly internal. The moment you break the physical link between metal and man you're in an unintuitive, and thus insecure, state.
larsrc 2y ago
YES!!! You need auth to prevent employees from looking up sensitive user data without a good reason, or it'll be a stalker's haven. And to prevent possible intruders from gaining more data/access. Defense in depth. And for preventing an experiment from wiping use data. And for so many other reasons!
mrguyorama 2y ago
The term of art is "Friendly fraud". A significant amount of product stolen from retail stores actually goes out the back door.

make3 2y ago

I guess we're not always professionals at all the work that we do, if that makes sense