> Everyone would have been better off had apartheid stayed. That's indefensible. But yes, today's SA is also a mess. I don't know why you bring up Argentina,

> Everyone would have been better off had apartheid stayed. That's indefensible. But yes, today's SA is also a mess. I don't know why you bring up Argentina, but I'm going to go out on a limb and postulate that you have never been to either country. I have been to both, and have friends in (and from) both. You know nothing of which you speak, I suspect, but your words sound dangerously close to the talking points of some astonishingly empty people. Could be worth some thought.