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HEIC is a standard too - it wasn’t a secret internal Apple project…

zenexer 2y ago
It might be a standard, but for a long time the licensing costs were exorbitant, and that likely stifled adoption. While licensing costs have come down, the pushback against HEIC’s pricing led to the development of better, royalty-free alternatives—including JPEG XL. Thank god they went with an unencumbered standard this time.
- gambiting 2y ago
  Windows showing you a popup saying you need to buy a £0.79 windows add on to just open photos taken with an iPhone was always unbelievable. Like some kind of malware or something.
  - throwaway17_17 2y ago
    In what context was thisnprompt appearing. I can not think of a time I have ever struggled to be able to open a photo from my iPhone in any of the apps I commonly use. Is this a Windows application issue or an OS issue, and how were the photos coming to your machine? Just to clarify, this is an honest question not sarcasm.
    - swiftcoder 2y ago
      If you directly download the HEIC photos to your windows PC. The iPhone tends to convert to jpeg whenever you email/whatsapp/etc a photo, so it's only direct file import that nets the original HEIC file.
      - gambiting 2y ago
        Exactly, I'd upload a bunch of photos to Google Drive to download to my PC, Google Drive could open them fine, but the default windows photo viewer app would demand payment to open them.
        astrange 2y ago
        Well, Windows wouldn't display the HDR part of the image, so you're still not exactly seeing it.
  - npteljes 2y ago
    Haha, that's rich. I have never seen this popup (haven't had the use case), was it this one? https://helpdeskgeek.com/wp-content/pictures/2020/10/02-HEVC-Codec.png https://helpdeskgeek.com/wp-content/pictures/2020/10/02-HEVC...
    - gambiting 2y ago
      Yep, that's the one.
npteljes 2y ago
Yes, OP worded this a bit incorrectly. Open source, royalty-free standard would be better.
scosman 2y ago
Not really. It was a 2 company colab with a pseudo spec. But their implementation had quirks that weren’t in the spec, and weren’t documented anywhere. We spend a week building a decoder and kept finding new undocumented bits. I wouldn’t call it a standard when zero folks outside Apple had access a reliable decoder at launch.

It might be a standard, but for a long time the licensing costs were exorbitant, and that likely stifled adoption. While licensing costs have come down, the pushback against HEIC’s pricing led to the development of better, royalty-free alternatives—including JPEG XL. Thank god they went with an unencumbered standard this time.

gambiting 2y ago
Windows showing you a popup saying you need to buy a £0.79 windows add on to just open photos taken with an iPhone was always unbelievable. Like some kind of malware or something.
- throwaway17_17 2y ago
  In what context was thisnprompt appearing. I can not think of a time I have ever struggled to be able to open a photo from my iPhone in any of the apps I commonly use. Is this a Windows application issue or an OS issue, and how were the photos coming to your machine? Just to clarify, this is an honest question not sarcasm.
  - swiftcoder 2y ago
    If you directly download the HEIC photos to your windows PC. The iPhone tends to convert to jpeg whenever you email/whatsapp/etc a photo, so it's only direct file import that nets the original HEIC file.
    - gambiting 2y ago
      Exactly, I'd upload a bunch of photos to Google Drive to download to my PC, Google Drive could open them fine, but the default windows photo viewer app would demand payment to open them.
      - astrange 2y ago
        Well, Windows wouldn't display the HDR part of the image, so you're still not exactly seeing it.
- npteljes 2y ago
  Haha, that's rich. I have never seen this popup (haven't had the use case), was it this one? https://helpdeskgeek.com/wp-content/pictures/2020/10/02-HEVC-Codec.png https://helpdeskgeek.com/wp-content/pictures/2020/10/02-HEVC...
  - gambiting 2y ago
    Yep, that's the one.

npteljes 2y ago

Yes, OP worded this a bit incorrectly. Open source, royalty-free standard would be better.

scosman 2y ago

Not really. It was a 2 company colab with a pseudo spec. But their implementation had quirks that weren’t in the spec, and weren’t documented anywhere. We spend a week building a decoder and kept finding new undocumented bits. I wouldn’t call it a standard when zero folks outside Apple had access a reliable decoder at launch.