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> "How? He's just enforcing the law in Brazil" > "Elon is the one who cut off Twitter's 5th biggest market because misinformation is the opium of fascist-wanna

by rvz 2y ago

> "How? He's just enforcing the law in Brazil" > "Elon is the one who cut off Twitter's 5th biggest market because misinformation is the opium of fascist-wannabees like him" You don't seem to be sure on what is going on or even know what 'fascist' means. Anything can be declared as "misinformation" these days which is the what many governments commonly use to enforce censorship and for its citizens to continue to believe one narrative for governments to then continue to lie to its citizens. Why do you want this?

IntelMiner 2y ago
If someone tells me the sky is blue, and then someone else tells me the sky is purple, I'm not going to believe it's purple just because "the government" tells me the weather forecast
- HideousKojima 2y ago
  That's something you can vetify yourself though. What if the government claimed that Polish soldiers attacked the German border, you claimed that it was actually German soldiers in Polish uniforms to give Germany a casus belli to invade, and a court censored your claim because they insist it's misinformation? How the hell is the average citizen going to determine what is misinformation or not there if any counterarguments or evidence are censored? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident I have a hard time believing you're this naive about this. Either you really haven't thought through the repercussions, or you're in favor of it because it's being used against your political enemies (for now).
  - IntelMiner 2y ago
    I'd counter that simply asserting that the Brazilian government is in the wrong over Elon Musk is a fools errand. I'm far more concerned about disinformation peddled by oligarchs like Rupert Murdoch. But while we're citing history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book) This book is so old it's legally in the public domain. Perhaps give it a read

by rvz 2y ago

IntelMiner 2y ago

If someone tells me the sky is blue, and then someone else tells me the sky is purple, I'm not going to believe it's purple just because "the government" tells me the weather forecast

HideousKojima 2y ago
That's something you can vetify yourself though. What if the government claimed that Polish soldiers attacked the German border, you claimed that it was actually German soldiers in Polish uniforms to give Germany a casus belli to invade, and a court censored your claim because they insist it's misinformation? How the hell is the average citizen going to determine what is misinformation or not there if any counterarguments or evidence are censored? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident I have a hard time believing you're this naive about this. Either you really haven't thought through the repercussions, or you're in favor of it because it's being used against your political enemies (for now).
- IntelMiner 2y ago
  I'd counter that simply asserting that the Brazilian government is in the wrong over Elon Musk is a fools errand. I'm far more concerned about disinformation peddled by oligarchs like Rupert Murdoch. But while we're citing history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book) This book is so old it's legally in the public domain. Perhaps give it a read