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> I wish there wasn't so much conflict but sometimes the people resorting to violence have been essentially left with no other meaningful solution. They've bee

> I wish there wasn't so much conflict but sometimes the people resorting to violence have been essentially left with no other meaningful solution. They've been trying to kill each other for years, even when they had other solutions and when Israel was the underdog. The difference in power now is huge, but it's always the same story... if some on both sides had their way, the other side would be wiped without a thought.

jiggawatts 2y ago
Millenia. They’ve been at this since biblical times. This is an ongoing culture war like Sunni vs Shia or Protestant vs Catholic. The original people involved in the fight are long dead from old age, replaced by generation after generation claiming to be the victim (on both sides, of course). This is why it’s best to stay out of it and watch from a safe distance. There is no right or wrong, good vs evil, victim and oppressor. It’s A vs B, cats vs dogs, my sports team vs your sports team. Israel happens to have the technological edge at the moment, but that’s after a couple of thousand years of being a powerless diaspora victim to oppression and actual genocide. Conversely, their opponents cry victim while we all full well know that if they got the military upper hand they’d do to the Israelis the same or worse. It’s depressing to see this from the outside, watching the long term damage wrought by what amounts to mind viruses. That’s all religions are: particularly addictive memes. Memes that kill hosts to protect themselves from other memes. If you’ve picked a side, you’ve picked a meme you’d like to be infected by. I prefer the vaccine.
- Sabinus 2y ago
  >This is why it’s best to stay out of it and watch from a safe distance. There is no right or wrong, good vs evil, victim and oppressor. It’s A vs B, cats vs dogs, my sports team vs your sports team. It serves the interests of the US to have a reliable ally in the region. Previously to the US fracking revolution, Middle East oil was very important to the oil supply for US allies. Of course now oil has less geopolitical importance and the US has no great interest in protecting Asian-European trade we'll see how far that partnership will continue.
  - jiggawatts 2y ago
    OPEC still sets the price of oil, albeit their control seems to be faltering. It’s a global market of a fungible raw material, so everywhere it is produced matters to domestic interests…
dotancohen 2y ago
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jiggawatts 2y ago

Millenia. They’ve been at this since biblical times. This is an ongoing culture war like Sunni vs Shia or Protestant vs Catholic. The original people involved in the fight are long dead from old age, replaced by generation after generation claiming to be the victim (on both sides, of course). This is why it’s best to stay out of it and watch from a safe distance. There is no right or wrong, good vs evil, victim and oppressor. It’s A vs B, cats vs dogs, my sports team vs your sports team. Israel happens to have the technological edge at the moment, but that’s after a couple of thousand years of being a powerless diaspora victim to oppression and actual genocide. Conversely, their opponents cry victim while we all full well know that if they got the military upper hand they’d do to the Israelis the same or worse. It’s depressing to see this from the outside, watching the long term damage wrought by what amounts to mind viruses. That’s all religions are: particularly addictive memes. Memes that kill hosts to protect themselves from other memes. If you’ve picked a side, you’ve picked a meme you’d like to be infected by. I prefer the vaccine.

Sabinus 2y ago
>This is why it’s best to stay out of it and watch from a safe distance. There is no right or wrong, good vs evil, victim and oppressor. It’s A vs B, cats vs dogs, my sports team vs your sports team. It serves the interests of the US to have a reliable ally in the region. Previously to the US fracking revolution, Middle East oil was very important to the oil supply for US allies. Of course now oil has less geopolitical importance and the US has no great interest in protecting Asian-European trade we'll see how far that partnership will continue.
- jiggawatts 2y ago
  OPEC still sets the price of oil, albeit their control seems to be faltering. It’s a global market of a fungible raw material, so everywhere it is produced matters to domestic interests…

dotancohen 2y ago

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