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More than that, it's basically a mini-state within a state... and at this point more functional than the government of Lebanon. The attack was by all accounts p

More than that, it's basically a mini-state within a state... and at this point more functional than the government of Lebanon. The attack was by all accounts pretty well targeted, but that still means there are probably a bunch of dead or maimed civil servants of the sort that a traditional military offensive would never care about.

jordanb 2y ago
> attack was by all accounts pretty well targeted Which accounts are you listening to? The accounts that I've heard is that they set every single one of these off all at once with no targeting and they blew up all over Lebanon in markets, theaters, schools, public transportation, etc.
- Sabinus 2y ago
  They weren't a random shipment of pagers to Lebanon, they were specifically ordered and used by Hesbollah.
  - jordanb 2y ago
    They were distributed randomly throughout the country before detonation. The fact that they were likely purchased by Hezbollah members is kinda beside the point when Israel knew they were going to be all over the place in public places and crowds when they blew up. Thousands of people were injured and some killed for the crime of being near a member of Hezbollah (or even just their belongings) when the bombs went off. If thousands of bombs were distributed to members of a large criminal syndicate in the US or other western country and then all detonated as these people went about their lives and interacted with normal citizens, we would be absolutely horrified.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > were distributed randomly throughout the country before detonation We have literally zero evidence of this. Either way. If you think you can pierce the fog of war by looking at one side's official announcements, you're going to spend a lot of time confused.
    - Sabinus 2y ago
      >They were distributed randomly throughout the country before detonation. They were distributed through and to the Hezbollah network of members and collaborators. As far as they're 'randomly distributed through the country' it depends where Hezbollah members go in the country with the pagers in their pockets.

jordanb 2y ago

> attack was by all accounts pretty well targeted Which accounts are you listening to? The accounts that I've heard is that they set every single one of these off all at once with no targeting and they blew up all over Lebanon in markets, theaters, schools, public transportation, etc.

Sabinus 2y ago
They weren't a random shipment of pagers to Lebanon, they were specifically ordered and used by Hesbollah.
- jordanb 2y ago
  They were distributed randomly throughout the country before detonation. The fact that they were likely purchased by Hezbollah members is kinda beside the point when Israel knew they were going to be all over the place in public places and crowds when they blew up. Thousands of people were injured and some killed for the crime of being near a member of Hezbollah (or even just their belongings) when the bombs went off. If thousands of bombs were distributed to members of a large criminal syndicate in the US or other western country and then all detonated as these people went about their lives and interacted with normal citizens, we would be absolutely horrified.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > were distributed randomly throughout the country before detonation We have literally zero evidence of this. Either way. If you think you can pierce the fog of war by looking at one side's official announcements, you're going to spend a lot of time confused.
  - Sabinus 2y ago
    >They were distributed randomly throughout the country before detonation. They were distributed through and to the Hezbollah network of members and collaborators. As far as they're 'randomly distributed through the country' it depends where Hezbollah members go in the country with the pagers in their pockets.