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> And these costs, where do they come from? Does every trial cost a million dollars a day? (I mean surely small claims court trials don’t right?) small claims

> And these costs, where do they come from? Does every trial cost a million dollars a day? (I mean surely small claims court trials don’t right?) small claims courts don't have a jury. If you're suing a giant company and asking for hundreds of millions in damages, they're for sure going to pull out all the stops. It's not My Cousin Vinny.

bee_rider 2y ago
Are you saying the jury is what costs a million dollars a day? That’s mind-blowing to somebody who doesn’t have any contact with the legal system. Dang, I wasn’t picked for jury duty a while ago. At some fraction of a million bucks a day, I’d have been set for a while. Tongue in cheek of course. Look, I’m intentionally stating my stupidity here, what’s the cost, is it really unavoidable or is it something that these big companies take on by their own decision?
- AlbertCory 2y ago
  I realize I was a little glib in ignoring your comments on the right to a jury trial. This IS a gray area, in that you can be deprived of your property. However, if there's a city planning board hearing on your application to remodel your house, you're not entitled to a jury. The IRS can assess penalties without a jury. So it's not as simple as "you have a right to a jury trial." The PTO awarded your patent, a process that might have included multiple appeals, without juries. Not all administrative procedures allow juries. I attended one day of the Apple v. Samsung trial in San Jose. Google had a "war room" (I assume Apple did, too), which was a suite in a hotel where we had meals brought in, and held all the work product. You can't risk sitting around in a restaurant and having people overhearing and bothering you. The war room has a guard outside 24x7. Expert witnesses are transported there and housed, and paid anywhere from $300 to $900 an hour. Most of the legal staff don't live in that city and have to travel there. Partners in big law firms bill at $1000 an hour or so. Big money.

bee_rider 2y ago

Are you saying the jury is what costs a million dollars a day? That’s mind-blowing to somebody who doesn’t have any contact with the legal system. Dang, I wasn’t picked for jury duty a while ago. At some fraction of a million bucks a day, I’d have been set for a while. Tongue in cheek of course. Look, I’m intentionally stating my stupidity here, what’s the cost, is it really unavoidable or is it something that these big companies take on by their own decision?

AlbertCory 2y ago
I realize I was a little glib in ignoring your comments on the right to a jury trial. This IS a gray area, in that you can be deprived of your property. However, if there's a city planning board hearing on your application to remodel your house, you're not entitled to a jury. The IRS can assess penalties without a jury. So it's not as simple as "you have a right to a jury trial." The PTO awarded your patent, a process that might have included multiple appeals, without juries. Not all administrative procedures allow juries. I attended one day of the Apple v. Samsung trial in San Jose. Google had a "war room" (I assume Apple did, too), which was a suite in a hotel where we had meals brought in, and held all the work product. You can't risk sitting around in a restaurant and having people overhearing and bothering you. The war room has a guard outside 24x7. Expert witnesses are transported there and housed, and paid anywhere from $300 to $900 an hour. Most of the legal staff don't live in that city and have to travel there. Partners in big law firms bill at $1000 an hour or so. Big money.