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This is the day where I ditch Firefox, finally. Whether completely correct or not, the official communication on this from Mozilla sounds not friendly at all, e

by wobfan 2y ago

This is the day where I ditch Firefox, finally. Whether completely correct or not, the official communication on this from Mozilla sounds not friendly at all, everything that Teixeira says points to a very "evil" company management, and their actions and proposed goals that they've announced over the last years also don't align with what I would wish to hear and see from such a company. I remember when I decided to fully ditch Google, and today it'll be Mozilla. It's a fucking shame - a company that I've placed A LOT of hope in some years ago.

mysterydip 2y ago
So what browser are you using? I'm in the same boat, but all I see is chrome clones.
- SSLy 2y ago
  just swap to one of the clean-up soft-forks, like LibreWolf
  - mmh0000 2y ago
    I get the idealism, but now you're just using Firefox, which has been bastardized and introduces more annoyances (and privacy, but privacy comes with annoyances...). Privacy, like security, is a trade-off between being easy to use and painfully annoying. Firefox tends towards the "easy-to-use" side, while things like LibreWorld slide to the "painful" side. That's not a bad thing, but most users won't want to deal with it. In the end, you're still supporting Firefox, which is really just Google in a clown costume. TL;DR: We need more browser engine choice.
- wobfan 2y ago
  Just as the other commenter said, I think for a start I will switch to LibreWolf or Waterfox, probably the first, as it's more focused on privacy and seems to be the safer bet. Completely ditching the Firefox core browser is probably not really possible. I'm not 100% sure how comparable the degoogled Chromium's are to something like LibreWolf, but something in me just doesn't want to switch to anything Google related again. My hopes are in something completely new, something that Firefox once was, like a browser built from Servo (which was a Mozilla project, https://servo.org/ https://servo.org/), or Ladybird. But until they're ready to use for day-to-day-use we got to wait some more years, I fear.
  - jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
    I'm eying Ladybird but it's still a ways off. I think they expect to launch in 2026.
TheRealPomax 2y ago
As amazing as saying that might make you feel, the people who make Firefox are not the people doing these things to Mozilla employees. Not to mention that your alternatives are Google, or reskinned Google, so really the choice should be "I'm going to keep using Firefox, and yell about Mozilla needing to fire their execs and replace them with people who actually care again".

by wobfan 2y ago

mysterydip 2y ago

So what browser are you using? I'm in the same boat, but all I see is chrome clones.

SSLy 2y ago
just swap to one of the clean-up soft-forks, like LibreWolf
- mmh0000 2y ago
  I get the idealism, but now you're just using Firefox, which has been bastardized and introduces more annoyances (and privacy, but privacy comes with annoyances...). Privacy, like security, is a trade-off between being easy to use and painfully annoying. Firefox tends towards the "easy-to-use" side, while things like LibreWorld slide to the "painful" side. That's not a bad thing, but most users won't want to deal with it. In the end, you're still supporting Firefox, which is really just Google in a clown costume. TL;DR: We need more browser engine choice.
wobfan 2y ago
Just as the other commenter said, I think for a start I will switch to LibreWolf or Waterfox, probably the first, as it's more focused on privacy and seems to be the safer bet. Completely ditching the Firefox core browser is probably not really possible. I'm not 100% sure how comparable the degoogled Chromium's are to something like LibreWolf, but something in me just doesn't want to switch to anything Google related again. My hopes are in something completely new, something that Firefox once was, like a browser built from Servo (which was a Mozilla project, https://servo.org/ https://servo.org/), or Ladybird. But until they're ready to use for day-to-day-use we got to wait some more years, I fear.
- jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
  I'm eying Ladybird but it's still a ways off. I think they expect to launch in 2026.

TheRealPomax 2y ago

As amazing as saying that might make you feel, the people who make Firefox are not the people doing these things to Mozilla employees. Not to mention that your alternatives are Google, or reskinned Google, so really the choice should be "I'm going to keep using Firefox, and yell about Mozilla needing to fire their execs and replace them with people who actually care again".